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Malaysia Airlines MH370: Tony Abbott says possible debris found in Indian Ocean [live thread]
ABC.net.au ^ | March 19, 2014

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:22:10 PM PDT by rdl6989

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has announced objects possibly related to the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines plane have been found in the southern Indian Ocean.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australiasearch; iran; malaysia; mh370; planecrash; waronterror
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To: mabarker1

Morning Ma. Got supper cooking in the CRACKpot so we freep all day!


381 posted on 03/20/2014 9:01:33 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Aqua225
"A rolling system collapse..."

In aviation accident investigation, it is usually referred to as 'cascading failures'.

Often the initial cause of an incident can be replicated by following the cascade, as different faults can cause precise cascade paths.

382 posted on 03/20/2014 9:06:29 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: hoosiermama

Morning

Just dry rubbed the ribs.

Only got about 2 hours sleep so I may be napping and running the late shift again seeing as the current activity is Down Under and 12 or so hours different.


383 posted on 03/20/2014 9:07:38 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

OK


384 posted on 03/20/2014 9:09:22 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mabarker1

That’s the plan for next 24. Only thing to happen today will be the “oh yeah forgot to tell you abouts!”


385 posted on 03/20/2014 9:10:50 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: George Varnum
Thanks for the link. The most plausible theory yet. A plan this Captain could pull off. The ultimate flight simulator video game come to life. I too fear of the scenario you describe. Pray. .
386 posted on 03/20/2014 9:14:26 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: hoosiermama
AND:

Look!, they went easy in reverse thrust, everybody check the Pacific!

387 posted on 03/20/2014 9:15:18 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: F15Eagle

388 posted on 03/20/2014 9:16:24 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: bgill
But you’d know it’d pinged a tower in Whoknowswhere-istan.

Yep.

389 posted on 03/20/2014 9:17:26 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Law is not justice but process

I think you’re correct. Lets assume everyone died on board and this thing was just flying on autopilot for thousands of miles. Eventually it runs out of gas, and basically comes down nose first. I can’t imagine any piece 50+ feet long would be left.

If it WAS an attempted water landing the obvious question is... why would anyone fly a plane thousands of miles over open ocean when they knew they couldn’t reach land? Nothing about this makes sense.


390 posted on 03/20/2014 9:19:52 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: mabarker1

Good news is the ships planes etc will continue moving toward the target area while we nap and thru their night ! By twilight we should start hearing feedback again


391 posted on 03/20/2014 9:27:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: dfwgator

Will Geraldo be packin heat?


392 posted on 03/20/2014 9:27:41 AM PDT by DocJhn
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To: corlorde
That's funny, when you think about it. Are they using PayPal, credit card, debit card?

Yes, the $ trail can be obscured, too, but it takes just a bit more work. Ordering on line without delivery to a third party means it can be tracked to you...

393 posted on 03/20/2014 9:32:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: hoosiermama

Seems to me like everyone is just wasting time and adlibbing until March 24th. A date thats been a hot topic on the ROP “chatter boards” recently.
I would hate to be in New York next monday when air raid sirens go off. Of course that won’t happen as any jet approaching will have all the right codes and signals, right?

Or maybe Iran in a show of faith says yes the jet landed in Pakistan but we want to turn a new page in history and we are instead sending plane back to America, Do not shoot it down, has passengers and baby on board.


394 posted on 03/20/2014 9:35:56 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: bigdaddy45

I thought I read on some other thread the transmitter on the ‘black box’ data recorder is only activated by reaching a G-force threshold. In other words, there’d need to be an explosion, or a hard crash for it to activate.

If the pilot(person in control) executed a wave top landing, maybe that’d minimize the experienced G-force, and the transmitter wouldn’t activate.

Take that info with a grain of salt. Hopefully anyone with more knowledge on the subject can correct me if I’m incorrect.

Also it’s still hard for me to believe this is what happened.


395 posted on 03/20/2014 9:37:34 AM PDT by fiftymegaton
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To: Spartan302; hoosiermama; maggief; null and void; Black Agnes; crosslink; LucyT

Spartan302,

What’s the significance of march 24th for the jihadis?

Some historical event?

Religious holiday & for whom?


396 posted on 03/20/2014 10:14:55 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Its what I picked up several days ago, cannot for the life remember where but should be easy enough to find, but some speculated the coincidental timing of the Global Nuclear Summit or something taking place March 24th at the Hague if I remember right, a target for the ROP?

But it was a reliable source that indeed the 24th was to be a “big” day.


397 posted on 03/20/2014 10:19:13 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: fiftymegaton

Maybe you mean the ‘ELT’? I believe some of them have been set off in small aircraft by rough landings, with little or no damage to the airframe or injury to the people in them.


398 posted on 03/20/2014 10:26:49 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: MRadtke

ELT - I think that’s what I read. Is the ELT contained within the ‘Black Box’ data recorder? (In the tail of the plane?)

When Sully landed in the Hudson, did the ELT transmit? Although they don’t have 20+ foot swells to deal with in the Hudson, and the plane stayed intact.

Just saw a graphic that shows the number of aircraft and ships searching the southern corridor(west of Australia) along with their country of origin.

Total of 12 countries searching, 25 aircraft, 6 helicopters, 20 ships. Yet the U.S. has only 1 aircraft and 0 ships contributing to the search in the Southern Corridor. Seems odd to me. Who knows.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10710250/Malaysian-Airlines-MH370-live.html


399 posted on 03/20/2014 11:04:32 AM PDT by fiftymegaton
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To: bigdaddy45

“If it WAS an attempted water landing the obvious question is... why would anyone fly a plane thousands of miles over open ocean when they knew they couldn’t reach land? Nothing about this makes sense.”

My point exactly! Wheter it be suicide or terrorism, why fly it way out into the remote Southern Ocean to do it? If it was a plane load of dead people - a la the unfortunate Payne Stewart - how does any piece larger than a car hood survive when the jet fuel runs out and it makes its final plunge? Also, there would have been a second course change from heading to the island airport to heading to the remote Southern Ocean, right? Why would the Captain or whoever change course a second time - presumably at cruising altitude as the fuel would have run out much sooner at lower altitude - to a very different heading if he was making for the nearest long runway airport? Why not descend on the second heading? None of it adds up!


400 posted on 03/20/2014 11:38:41 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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