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Today Crimea, tomorrow Alaska?
lowell sun ^ | 3/19/2014 | Peter Lucas

Posted on 03/21/2014 5:04:41 AM PDT by luke1825

Let's hope he doesn't want Alaska back.

I mean, if Czar Vladimir Putin decides that Russia was really screwed when it sold the vast expanse of Alaska to the United States for a measly $7.2 million back in 1867, he may now want to nullify the deal.

Treaties, contracts and deals mean nothing to the guy.

The man is on a role. He is scooping up pieces of the former Soviet Union as though he were old Communist Czar Joe Stalin. Old Joe gobbled up countries at the end of World War II as though they were war souvenirs. That set off the Cold War.

That long war, won by the U.S. and the West, led to the breakup of the old Soviet Union in 1991. Now Vlad the Great, who could be the grandson Stalin never knew he had, is trying to put it back together again. Thanks to the flexible, overmatched waif in the White House, he is succeeding

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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“Or did General Patton not know what he was talking about.”

Well, I’ve read some about Patton. And, it well documented that he had no shortage of appreciation for his own self for sure. While he was correct in that the Soviet Union was severely lacking in its supply capability (known as logistics today) the Soviets would not have found this necessary as it would have been fighting a defensive war - same as with Napoleon, and the Germans. And, as with these previous aggressors the Soviets had a tremendous capacity in their ability and willingness to absorb casualties. Patton suffered from the same disease as MacArthur; self agrandissement. Roosevelt/Eisenhower were wise in keeping Patton on a short leash, same for Truman with His Highness Doug.


61 posted on 03/21/2014 10:58:09 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear
the Soviets would not have found this necessary as it would have been fighting a defensive war

So logistics are not necessary to fight a defensive war a thousand miles from your own borders????

Any you think Roosevelt/Eisenhower were wise????

You've been reading the wrong books apparently.

62 posted on 03/21/2014 1:06:54 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Logistics are necessary regardless. But, it should be obvious that requirements are less stringent when the supply chain is say, a few miles.p vs from Berlin to Stalingrad, especially during a Russian winter. Surely, even you can grasp that, maybe....


63 posted on 03/21/2014 2:46:41 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: KC_Lion

The problem is that there is a percentage of the population, and it ain’t small, that will not only line up for the ‘counting’ but will report you to the ‘counters’ for being otherwise disposed that day.

And not all of them are liberals. Some of them even post on right wing websites.


64 posted on 03/21/2014 3:12:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Marguerite

I assure you that no grass grew up under Daddy’s feet in the part of the war for which he bore responsilility. He did all that was humanly possible to help bring Hitler to his end. You bear your scars. I also bear scars. Daddy bore worse scars. - He had survived the Nazis so far; but he was on his way to Japan IF Roosevelt hadn’t made a hard decision to end it.


65 posted on 03/23/2014 6:32:32 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie

“I assure you that no grass grew up under Daddy’s feet in the part of the war for which he bore responsilility. He did all that was humanly possible to help bring Hitler to his end. You bear your scars. I also bear scars. Daddy bore worse scars.”

Far from my intention to accuse the brave military who bravely fought in the war. If you took it in this way, please accept my profound and sincere apology.

We were talking about the US and UK leaders and their deal with Stalin. Those who give orders bear also the full responsibility.

Let me tell you a story. In 1943 the Jewish leaders of the Warsaw ghetto, seeing that the SS started deporting the men, women and children to Auschwitz, the deadly extermination camp, contacted a councellor of the Poland government in exile in London, and BEGGED him to contact W.Churchill and ask him to order the Auschwitz bombing, in order to STOP the killings - 5,000 people per day. He did that. Churchill response? Operation too expensive for a ‘non-military, non-prioritary target.’ 300,000 Jews from Warsaw were deported to Auschvitz and 280,000 were exterminated there. The Warsaw ghetto was destroyed after the last Jews took the arms and fought against the SS guards ...
The Polish diplomat told this story himself in the documentary “Shoah’ made by Claude Lanzmann.

You can imagine my emotion and utter disgust, when I learned that.


66 posted on 03/23/2014 7:22:36 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Twinkie

More about the Polish dipomat’s testimony:

“Jan Karski (24 June 1914 – 13 July 2000) was a Polish World War II resistance movement fighter and later professor at Georgetown University. In 1942 and 1943 Karski reported to the Polish government in exile and the Western Allies on the situation in German-occupied Poland, especially the destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto, and the secretive German-Nazi extermination camps.

From 1942 Karski reported to the Polish, British and U.S. governments on the situation in Poland, especially on the destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto and the Holocaust of Polish Jews. He had also carried out of Poland a microfilm with further information from the underground movement on the extermination of European Jews in German-occupied Poland. The Polish Foreign Minister Count Edward Raczynski provided the Allies on this basis one of the earliest and most accurate accounts of the Holocaust.

On July 28, 1943 Karski personally met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Oval Office, telling him about the situation in Poland and becoming the first eyewitness to tell him about the Jewish Holocaust.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Karski

So, Roosevelt and Churchill did know everything about the extermination of Jews in Poland. WHAT did they do during the two remaining years of the war to stop it? NOTHING.


67 posted on 03/23/2014 7:34:32 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: snoringbear
Possibly the lesser of the evils on the table at the time.

Possibly. Before Hitler even started WWII in September 1939, how many dead did Stalin have on his account, 6 million? (More actually). Possibly, but not really.

68 posted on 03/23/2014 7:41:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Badwhereas things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Marguerite

FDR had Alger Hiss at his side in Yalta, as I’ve read.


69 posted on 03/23/2014 7:43:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Badwhereas things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Twinkie

Part of Jan Karski’s emotional testimony on Warsaw ghetto

http://youtu.be/hpg-wFJFxRQ


70 posted on 03/23/2014 7:52:57 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Revolting cat!

Hiss was indeed a member of the U.S. delegation at the Yalta conference. He participating in the writing of the “Declaration of Liberated Europe” presented by US.


71 posted on 03/23/2014 8:08:33 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Revolting cat!


Possibly. Before Hitler even started WWII in September 1939, how many dead did Stalin have on his account, 6 million? (More actually). Possibly, but not really.”

No argument here. Both hitler and Stalin were brutal killers. And, both were willing to accept huge numbers of casualties of their own people (both military and civilian) so to achieve whatever objective they perceived to be in their interest. But, during WWII, Hitler decided to invade the Soviet Union, thereby putting the Soviets on the Allies side - one of those “my enemies’ enemy is my friend” kind of thing. Btw, just a side note to this topic; Hitler made several strategic blunders, opening an eastern front against the Soviets was in mho was perhaps at the top of the list, perhaps a tie with declaring war on the U.S.


72 posted on 03/24/2014 3:46:14 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Marguerite

Daddy’s words to me about his experiences in N. Africa, Sicily, Italy, & Germany were, “We began hearing rumors about the camps coming down to us through the ranks, and we really began fighting as hard as we could to get to them.”

He was a private in the American Army Infantry. His bunch went into & liberated one of the camps in Germany. He was a farm boy, not educated. He said he saw a row of bodies stacked several feet high for a space of about an eighth of a mile. (If you don’t think those kind of sights will affect you, you’re misled - as will having to blow men’s brains out in order to stop them.)

His company commander (Captain Theodore Noon, Jr.) was a very capable commander; & Daddy always spoke highly of him. A German officer shot Captain Noon in the neck, after he had already been horribly wounded by machine gun fire. Daddy always had some sympathy for the simple conscripted German soldier, but the German officers he had absolutely no respect for. - He said after basic training, his bunch was ready to charge hell with a bucket of water; and they did, charging through N. Africa, Sicily, Italy, straight up into Berlin just half an hour after Hitler committed suicide.


73 posted on 03/24/2014 7:19:37 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Genoa

Well, Roosevelt probably was a spoiled little rich boy and, worst of all - a Democrat.
Daddy always respected FDR as his Commander-in-Chief; but he just plain didn’t like Eleanor and her fingers in every pie after the war; but I guess she had her cross to bear, too. In retrospect, I doubt he had much time to do much analyzing of FDR in the heat of the battles in which he was involved.


74 posted on 03/24/2014 7:29:51 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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