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I’m not of a mindset to call them all trolls, Sarge. Some might be, sure, but I think a lot of them are simply newbies that are just as disgusted as we are and looking for a place to vent.

We were ALL newbies once, learning the ropes here.

I believe everyone has a right to their opinion and to speak their mind, and I’d fight to the death to preserve it - even though I may vehemently disagree with them and will call them on it.

My issue, as I’ve said before, is that I’m simply SICK of hearing the “We’re finished! We’re DONE! It’s OVER”! litany.

You know our history - places like Lexington .... Bunker Hill .... Valley Forge ... Fort McHenry ... Pearl Harbor .... Bataan ... Corregidor ... Pusan ... Khe Sanh... and a hundred other seemingly “hopeless” situations through our history.

Hell, if our people ALWAYS thought that way, we wouldn’t even BE a people. I’m not saying the attitude didn’t exist then, but it seems so much more prevalent now.

So yes, I might have come off like a Pr*ck to some, and that’s not intentional; it’s just increased frustration at hearing the same whiny defeatist BS over and over again from multiple sources.

So if someone wants to discuss valid solutions, I’m all ears. Solid plans, coordinated efforts, and ideas for solving our myriad problems - hell, I’m yer huckleberry. But the Frenchy surrender monkey stuff... not so much, ever. That just helps the other side and gives them a chubby.

So there’s my case on it.

Lets take a look at Lexington, Concord, Bunker Hill, ..., and the revolutionary war.

I would say that a declaration of independence is certainly calling for a finish to the status quo government.

"For my own part I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings."

"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?"

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth -- to know the worst and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House?"

"Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament."

"..In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope."

Enjoy..

Yeah, I was a newbie once myself, but back then, there was none of this defeatism we're seeing more and more of with each passing day. Despite Klinton being the Coward in Chief, things were not as dire as they are today. FReepers were staunch and resolute back then...too many are surrender monkeys today.

Don't underestimate your enemy. Those who think I'm just being paranoid about Leftist trolls being on FReep and other conservative fora, read these articles:

Confirmation of paid political Trolls

Beware of the Trolls: Is Liberal Troll Activity Increasing?

There are more articles to be found, and as you see, Leftist trolling is nothing new. The Obammunists are fighting the Alinski-ish psychological war against us, and too many of us are falling for it hook, line and sinker. Just because someone claims to be a conservative patriot doesn't mean they are. Be careful who you trust.

So Alex...where's the quote, you lying, cowardly sack of garbage?

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