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The heart-healthy benefits of fish oils questioned in research
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Posted on 03/23/2014 10:17:21 PM PDT by chessplayer

Foods rich in fish oils such as omega-3 don’t reduce heart-disease risk, calling into question national dietary guidelines that promote the fats as beneficial to cardiovascular health, an analysis of 72 studies found.

The research showed insufficient support for nutritional recommendations by groups such as the American Heart Association that advocate high consumption of polyunsaturated fats like omega-3, found in fish such as salmon, and omega-6, found in corn and sunflower oils, as well as some nuts and seeds. The study appeared in Monday’s Annals of Internal Medicine.

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To: steve86

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That’s why the article is BS. Hi Try’s contribute to heart disease.

Just like red rice yeast helps lower cholesterol, but they rather you buy the $190 per month lipitor prescription. Actually, though Lipitor was scheduled to go generic, so I don’t know if it is generic now, I know it’s been getting yearly waivers on going generic for a couple of years.

My first set of 3 months prescriptions for the year was a huge bill.

And Right source pharmacy (Humana) sucks cause I can’t establish an account ... keeps saying my group ID isn’t valid. But they keep calling me, there was a time I was getting 7-8 phone calls a week from humana.


21 posted on 03/24/2014 2:43:47 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Journalticion -- journalist + politician. Used to be called propagandist.)
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To: chessplayer

I keep my cholesterol and triglycerides down below maximums by eating oatmeal frequently. And that is the quickie instant stuff. It works great, for me anyway. I eat fish once a week on Fridays, and that is enough seafood for me.


22 posted on 03/24/2014 2:57:17 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: saintgermaine

“Instead drug companies as well as most doctors, not that I have anything against them and do appreciate them, will push fancy synthesized expensive drugs, over suggesting a much more healthy life style as well as recommending Aspirin to counteract inflammation where ever it may flare up , including the interior of our arteries.”

They aren’t mutually exclusive, and any physician who purports to treat coronary disease and who doesn’t recommend daily aspirin and a healthy lifestyle is just not following national recommendations.


23 posted on 03/24/2014 3:07:22 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: chessplayer

All I know is those that ingest fish oil/omega 3 supplements will die and the cause of death will likely be cancer or coronary related; less likely crushed by a beer truck.


24 posted on 03/24/2014 3:40:11 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: WinMod70
All these so-called “studies” do is give people with nothing better to do, something to do.

Once they have stated their “scientific” opinion, they can sit around, debate and defend against the rights and wrongs of their opposition, hence giving them more of nothing constructive to do. The only scientific things we know is that "you will eat a peck of dirt before you die" :)

25 posted on 03/24/2014 4:03:32 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: married21

“Thank you for mentioning that fish oil reduces triglycerides. I need to get back to taking it, then”

I doubt OTC grade does much, but prescription Vascepa (highly purified fish oil)significantly reduces trigs and Bad Cholesterol. It’s best in it’s class but the FDA has only approved it for trigs over 500, although Docs can prescribe off label for lower levels.


26 posted on 03/24/2014 4:31:14 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: chessplayer

Everyone who eats will suffer various and occasional maladies throughout their lives; therefore, eating is unhealthy.

How am I doing, perfessor?


27 posted on 03/24/2014 4:43:46 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: saintgermaine
I do not use much fats or oils and what ever I use is virgin olive oil. Along with it very little bread, and hardly any pasta etc. or products created with flower. Primarily I stick with fruits, vegetables, oatmeal, flax seeds, some yogurt, unprocessed long grain rice, some fish or a little chicken and very little red meat.

What you have described here is the Mediterranean Diet. If I do eat bread or pasta, I use whole grain.

28 posted on 03/24/2014 4:53:44 AM PDT by IamConservative (Damn that groundhog!)
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To: saintgermaine

Wow, this doctor’s point of view is very similar to David Perlmutter, MD. His recent book The Grain Brain makes an impassioned case for removing gluten, sugar, and most carbohydrates from our diet. It has provoked a great deal of criticism from the orthodox medical and nutritional folks. It’s hard to believe things that run counter to the “conventional wisdom” we’ve been hearing all our lives. For me, the proof was in the dramatic improvement in the way I function and feel after losing almost 60 lbs. in the last year on a strictly limited carbohydrate diet. By its very nature, it removed much of the gluten from my diet. Both my wife and I have virtually eliminated refined sugar from our diets, too. Exercise is also a necessary component. Here again orthodox advice can lead you astray and cause harm—resistance training should predominate, and long stretches of cardio on machines like treadmills should be avoided. I did NOT get my MD’s approval; he would have tried to dissuade me. I went ahead and did it, and let the scale and improved blood work numbers do the talking.


29 posted on 03/24/2014 5:01:27 AM PDT by Wheelman81
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To: chessplayer

This sort of “study” is part of the application process for research grants from government and Pharmaceutical companies.


30 posted on 03/24/2014 5:17:41 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: chessplayer

Color me cautious but, being followed with annual vascular CT scans for a ballooning aorta they found a kidney artery 80% blocked. My daughter a nurse suggested I take krill oil. The next year showed it 60% blocked and the subsequent years showed the artery free of obstruction. So, I don’t know if the krill did it, but I keep taking it.


31 posted on 03/24/2014 5:25:47 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: FreeperCell; chessplayer
"Yeah, an endless back and forth. I have lost all faith in science"

I know the feeling. A month ago my doctor wrote a prescription for Vitamin D2 because blood test showed D level was seriously low. When I went to pick it up at the pharmacy I noticed that it was a "synthetic" product, and I have always heard bad things about synthetic vitamins. So I rejected it and went to the Health Food store and bought a Vitamin D3 all natural supplement - strength of which is the same as that prescribed by my doctor.

The doctor is very angry at me and says if I refuse to follow instructions how can she help me. When I explained that I substituted a natural (non-synthetic) product she said she had never heard there was any problems with synthetic vitamins.

To say the least, I am having trouble knowing who to believe and trust. Any FReeper advice is welcomed.

32 posted on 03/24/2014 6:14:27 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: chessplayer
I do eat three 3.75 oz cans of sardines in olive oil a week.

I eat sardines, too, but mine are in either Louisiana hot sauce or mustard. I cannot remember for the life of me the type of oil that they normally come in but olive oil does not strike a bell. Is that the usual oil you see in sardines? I'm not a big fan of oily sardines but would have them if the oil--such as olive--is more beneficial. Thanks.

33 posted on 03/24/2014 6:22:03 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Wheelman81

By the way, I never see seventy again. Been very active all my life and have been exercising regularly, even more so in my later years. I swim one mile a day and six miles per week and push weights afterwards. I hardly ever ate fast food, and in later years avoided it altogether. Do not drink any pop, hardly any bread or products made from flower, no cookies, cakes, ice cream etc. But as strange as it may sound I love cod live oil and regular butter along with olive oil. For breakfast I always have an egg, sunny side up floating in olive oil, yum, yum.

Due to the aging process I had gained some weight as my metabolism slowed down considerably and I knew this could not continue. Even so I ate mostly the right foods I still was gaining, so I cut back and lost about thirty pounds over about a year and now I am back to just about the weight I weighed when I was twenty. After checking my last blood test the doctor told me that it is very seldom he seen such good results. Along with the proper diet I am also heavy on certain types of vitamins, contrary that many doctors think they are useless, which is a bunch of crap. So, all considered, I plan on continuing what I have been doing as I would stand too much to lose doing otherwise.


34 posted on 03/24/2014 6:28:04 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: chessplayer

I was just about convinced to start a fish oil regimen.

Now I’m just going to revert to comfort foods like pork sausage with biscuits and gravy for breakfast.

A triple cheeseburger with fries for lunch

And steak and potatoes for dinner (when I can afford it)

I’m 73 and not sure I want to live another 20 years to see how my beloved country will be changed from the one I knew.


35 posted on 03/24/2014 6:37:36 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Wheelman81

Yep...what you said...Low carb works for me as well as intervals for 20 min. 2-3 times weekly, Pilates and weights. Recently added high fat...As really the research is showing humans NEED FAT more than anything...just NOT fake fats.


36 posted on 03/24/2014 7:28:59 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: OldPossum

I eat sardines, too, but mine are in either Louisiana hot sauce or mustard. I cannot remember for the life of me the type of oil that they normally come in but olive oil does not strike a bell. Is that the usual oil you see in sardines? I’m not a big fan of oily sardines but would have them if the oil—such as olive—is more beneficial. Thanks.


I eat King Oscar. I haven’t checked any other brands to see what they come in. Olive oil (extra virgin) is VERY healthy.


37 posted on 03/24/2014 8:53:47 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Myrddin

Well.. If ya got to go.. I guess its back to cocaine , beer and loose women for me. (hope wifey doesn’t mind, the poodles really love fish oil too) ;-]


38 posted on 03/24/2014 9:21:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: chessplayer

Thanks for the tip. I’ll look for King Oscar sardines the next time I’m at the grocery store.


39 posted on 03/24/2014 9:30:29 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Usagi_yo

Generic Lipitor (atorvastatin)

30 tablets of atorvastatin 20mg (generic Lipitor) $15 at Walmart and others with coupon from

http://www.goodrx.com/lipitor

I use their coupons.


40 posted on 03/24/2014 9:42:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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