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Flight MH370: Chinese and Australian ships draw blank
BBC ^ | March 29, 2014

Posted on 03/29/2014 8:00:25 AM PDT by don-o

A Chinese and an Australian ship have failed to identify remains from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight after their first day in a new search area.

The two ships retrieved objects from the Indian Ocean but none was confirmed to be from missing flight MH370, Australia's maritime authority said.

Chinese aircraft also flew over the area, north-east of the previous zone, and have spotted more objects.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; china; mh370; waronterror
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To: yadent

Malaysians now admit that their military radar painted the flight from 1:19 at the point it turned around. How else would we know that it went up to 45,000ft for 23 minutes before dropping precipitously to 12,000ft.

They admit following it until 2:40 heading northwest on that busy air corridor to and from India when it disappeared at 2:40 from their radar— meaning that at that point it had likely turned.

The further it travelled on that heading to the northwest the greater the likelihood that it would have turned south at around that time in order to make it’s 3:11 Inmarsat ping.

So what they were saying yesterday is that since the plane was travelling faster up that northwest corridor than thought previously, it was likely much further along at 2:40 increasing even further the likelihood of it turning south.

Note the red path here that it extends beyond the yellow one:

https://www.facebook.com/178566888854999/photos/pcb.740971779281171/740971732614509/?type=1&theater

Investigators have said that the pilot’s actions were “rational”.

He wanted to get out of the area undetected by ground control, radar or other airline pilots — that’s why he dropped down to 12,000ft and flew at that altitude as fast as possible.

He also flew the northwest heading just long enough to get around Indonesia and their radar before then heading south.


101 posted on 03/29/2014 1:35:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cynwoody

Bingo —

The “Possible Turn” at 18:30 would be 2:30 and the Malaysians said they lost track of it on its northwest heading by 2:40.


102 posted on 03/29/2014 1:46:36 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Bryan24
5. The plane turned South and climbed to 45,000.

6. The plane dropped precipitously.

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't put too much credence in military radar altitude readings.

That makes me think pilot went rogue and tried to blackmail the Malaysian government over his political hero being jailed the previous day. Malaysians might have shot it down and are covering their tracks by distraction and ineptness.

That doesn't account for why the airplane was still alive at 0811 Malaysian time.

Maybe it was indeed hijacked at the time the transponder stopped working, either by one or both of the pilots or by as yet unidentified passenger(s). The hijackers diverted the plane westward, intending to fly it to somewhere in the 'stans or maybe Somalia. At some point they turned south, perhaps to put more distance between the plane and military radar. But then a struggle broke out to regain control of the plane, in the course of which something happened (decompression?) that incapacitated everyone on board. Then the plane continued flying on autopilot until it ran out of fuel.

Something like Payne Stewart or Helios Airways 522.

103 posted on 03/29/2014 2:19:39 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Uncle Chip

I notice that the only search hit on his name shows that the older dates have the phony report of radar data, and the newer ones show him saying no, there was none.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rodzali+Daud&oq=Rodzali+Daud&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.992j0j1&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8


104 posted on 03/29/2014 2:33:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: SunkenCiv

He denied it before he admitted it:

At the press conference [on March 12], Rodzali said:

“The RMAF has not ruled out the possibility of an air turn back on a reciprocal heading before the aircraft vanished from the radar and this resulted in the Search and Rescue Operations being widened to the vicinity of the waters off Penang.”

http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/mh370-rmaf-chief-denies-airline-signal-was-detected-near-pulau-perak-31695

He denied it on March 9 misleading 14 nations into a wild fish chase in the South China Sea for 7 days, and then on March 12 he is caught in a big fat lie.

When told that other nations had evidence of the plane heading west, he cr&pped in his pants and has been backtracking ever since.


105 posted on 03/29/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cynwoody

The ACARS quit, then the pilot gave his last broadcast, and then the transponder quit. The radar track toward the west was later denied by the Malaysian source, Thailand came forward with its track of an unidentified some days after the plane went missing. The seven hourly pings from an automated system that had not shut down is what was used by INMARSAT. There’s been no detection of the black box, and even assuming that it made it through, it will last perhaps 30 days, perhaps a bit longer.


106 posted on 03/29/2014 2:57:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, exactly — he denies that it headed west:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9lvm9jHTNss/Ux7ALCrnAkI/AAAAAAAANKs/EY1FUbhYtHE/s1600/MH370+pulau+perak.jpg


107 posted on 03/29/2014 3:31:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: don-o

Maybe now we can listen to the General.

Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney. Name sound familiar?


108 posted on 03/29/2014 3:42:50 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SunkenCiv

that plane landed, got the Earl Scheib 29.95 paint job, was refueled and it went where it is held now


109 posted on 03/29/2014 3:46:06 PM PDT by advertising guy ( <------------- lotta white in here ------------>)
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To: advertising guy

The best explanation I’ve heard yet!


110 posted on 03/29/2014 3:49:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yes, exactly — he denies that it headed west:

You must have missed this part:

At the press conference [on March 12], Rodzali said:

“The RMAF has not ruled out the possibility of an air turn back on a reciprocal heading before the aircraft vanished from the radar and this resulted in the Search and Rescue Operations being widened to the vicinity of the waters off Penang.

You do know that "the waters off Penang" are west of where the plane was when contact was lost, don't you???

111 posted on 03/29/2014 3:49:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SunkenCiv

and to add...I’ve read enuf and heard enuf to disable
any tell tale device on or near that plane


112 posted on 03/29/2014 3:51:32 PM PDT by advertising guy ( <------------- lotta white in here ------------>)
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To: SunkenCiv

<>The ACARS quit, then the pilot gave his last broadcast, and then the transponder quit.<>

quit??? without giving notice so they could file for unemployment???

The sequence of events shows that they didn’t quit — they were fired:

01:07 Last ACARS data transmission received

01:19 Last Malaysian ATC voice contact

01:21 Last secondary radar (transponder) contact

01:22 Transponder and ADS-B now off

01:30 Voice contact attempt by another aircraft, at request of Vietnam ATC; mumbling and radio static heard in reply

01:37 Missed expected half-hourly ACARS data transmission

02:11 First of seven automated hourly Classic Aero pings (handshakes) (since last ACARS transmission) via the Inmarsat-3 F1 satellite

02:15 Last primary radar contact by Malaysian military, 200 miles NW of Penang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370

Please tell General Daud Rodzali to read Wikipedia to find out what his military are picking up on radar:

02:15 Last primary radar contact by Malaysian military, 200 miles NW of Penang


113 posted on 03/29/2014 3:54:55 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

They’re not picking up anything. It’ll be interesting to see if anything is ever found from this plane, but since it’s not being looked for where it went down, any discovery will be accidental — perhaps plastics, other buoyant materials, washing up on a beach somewhere, and probably a place washed by the South China Sea.


114 posted on 03/29/2014 3:58:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Irish Eyes
Maybe now we can listen to the General.

Why???

Does he have any pictures or pieces of the Malaysian Airliner to show us???

115 posted on 03/29/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

You do know the difference between “RMAF has not ruled out the possibility” and the fact that he denied that there was any radar track, don’t you?


116 posted on 03/29/2014 3:59:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: SunkenCiv

You must have missed this part:

02:15 Last primary radar contact by Malaysian military, 200 miles NW of Penang


117 posted on 03/29/2014 4:00:26 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: advertising guy

I heard you were the main suspect.


118 posted on 03/29/2014 4:00:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve been sleepin in the plane for 2 weeks.......planted some okra near the tail Wednesday...there is good light back there


119 posted on 03/29/2014 4:07:02 PM PDT by advertising guy ( <------------- lotta white in here ------------>)
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To: Uncle Chip

IOW, they had an unknown.


120 posted on 03/29/2014 4:12:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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