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FBI seizes trove of cultural artifacts at 91-year-old Indiana man's home
Foxnews.com ^ | 4/3/2014 | Foxnews.com

Posted on 04/03/2014 6:31:41 AM PDT by alancarp

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To: alancarp

The FBI will be destroying the artifacts to protect the artifacts.


41 posted on 04/03/2014 7:43:16 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: alancarp

Hey, they didn’t get a West Point grad, degreed lawyer to blow his brains out and set the place on fire. In this Untied States one ought be grateful for such things.


42 posted on 04/03/2014 7:46:29 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Fido969
"If he possessed ONE EAGLE FEATHER amonst his collected item, he would be facing a huge fine and jail time."

Meanwhile, Obama his given his wind-power cronies a blank check to kill hundreds of thousands of birds every year, including endangered species.
43 posted on 04/03/2014 7:52:09 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
How can the FBI determine when and how something was purchased/found/obtained? Can the FBI just barge in and demand answers in a “guilty-until-proven-innocent” kind of way?

If their presence in your home is based on a "we're-in-the-right-until-somebody-proves-otherwise" mindset, then yes. They can do that until we stop them from doing it.

44 posted on 04/03/2014 7:52:11 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: alancarp

“obtained others legally or before laws affecting them were on the books”

The author is a jackass. He repeated the same sentiment. If it was obtained before it was illegal, it’s legal.


45 posted on 04/03/2014 7:52:38 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: jameslalor
Irrational hatred of antiquarians. Motivated more by a distaste towards affluence and private property than any reasonable desire to preserve history, culture, or context.

I’d rather see a well-loved and well-cared-for collection of antiquities in private hands than rotting away forgotten in some agency’s or institution’s cellars, or worse yet, handed off to some unthinking, uncaring, and unfunded government workers in an unstable third-world nation just to end up in a 21st century midden.


46 posted on 04/03/2014 7:56:43 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: alancarp
"The cultural value of these artifacts is immeasurable"

Museums are full of this stuff, but apparently it's unacceptable for a private individual to have it. Here in the Seattle area, the museums specialize in Asian and Native American artifacts. To be fair, shouldn't all of THAT stuff be repatriated? Why just pick on a 91-year-old man?
47 posted on 04/03/2014 7:59:38 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: alancarp
"Federal authorities will attempt to repatriate items with their rightful owners"

"Rightful owners" = Obama donors?
48 posted on 04/03/2014 8:02:30 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Iron Munro

Just wait until the EPA discovers a puddle in his yard and declares it a protected wetland.


49 posted on 04/03/2014 8:03:25 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: nikos1121
"I can just imagine that crap the Obama’s and Clinton’s have confiscated over the years..."

It is well known that FDR appropriated for his personal stamp collection a lot of valuable stuff from the U.S. Postal Service.
50 posted on 04/03/2014 8:05:50 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: alancarp
What a RELIEF to know that the nation's myriad security threats (& usurping President) the have all been dealt with,
allowing the Feebs time to focus on such heinous crimes as ths !
51 posted on 04/03/2014 8:07:32 AM PDT by tomkat
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52 posted on 04/03/2014 8:11:11 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: grobdriver

Nah, Indiana Jones didn’t cotton much to private collectors. Remember part III? “This ought to be in a museum!”


53 posted on 04/03/2014 8:11:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
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54 posted on 04/03/2014 8:16:08 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Red Badger
Maybe he obtained an artifact that has to do with the illegal usurper in the white house. I would believe that even more if he died in a gun battle against 100 agents.
55 posted on 04/03/2014 8:42:42 AM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: peeps36

The long form BC?....................


56 posted on 04/03/2014 8:59:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: alancarp
Can we "repatriate" Obama with his rightful owners?


57 posted on 04/03/2014 8:59:37 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: alancarp
This was posted on the 2 Million Bikers to DC's Facebook page:

Remember this story from yesterday "FBI seizing artifacts at rural Indiana home. FBI surrounds home in rural central Indiana; agency says agents seizing artifacts"?

Well folks guess what, the FBI was NOT looking for artifacts at all! Here is the REAL Story sent to us by one of his Protege's:

FBI seizes Native American, "other artifacts" at rural Indiana home

This story reeks of Government Cover-up. The real truth lies in what has not been reported in this story. One must first know the definition of artifacts: an object formed by humans, particularly one of interest to archaeologists.

This differs from the word relic:: something that is from a past time, place, culture, etc. ►Artifacts can be data, technology etc which are covered under treaties.◄

The FBI statement "Jones said that the extensive collection, which Miller amassed over eight decades, includes Native American artifacts and relics as well as items from the United States, China, Haiti, Australia, Russia, New Guinea, Italy, New Zealand, Puerto Rico, Greece, Peru and possibly several other countries."

The FBI statement allows room for many scenarios. My research on Dr. Don Miller led me to discover his close involvement in the creation and detonation of the atom bomb. Read the full story here: http://www.rushvillerepublican.com/local/x681493636/The-Day-the-Sun-Rose-Twice?zc_p=0

Dr. Don Miller, holds a P.H.D in electrical engineering, is the brother of Dr. Stanley Miller world reknowned Chemical Physicist.. Don Miller operated under the company name Wyman Research, he created transponders used by NASA in the space stations Read the story here:

http://www.marexmg.org/fileshtml/sponsorspeople.htm and photos of his invention from space

http://web.archive.org/web/20021213135955/http://www.svs.net/wyman/examples/sstv.htm

Also read about Dr Stanley Millers research http://www.pbs.org/exploringspace/meteorites/murchison/page5.html

►Oddly enough Dr.Millers Website was taken down last month and my research relied greatly on the way back machine which archives websites. His website was www.svs.net ◄

BINGO ►► Most recently Dr Miller developed the technology to locate any transmitter through triangulation after the beacon has failed. This technology would be very useful say if an airplane went down and was unable to be located. ◄◄

Dr. Miller has offered tours of his mini museum for many years which contained relics from his travels which was never of issue until recently. I googled FBI and artifact seizure and other than the raid on Dr. Millers home and some stories of soldiers stealing Iraqi artifacts, there was very little. It does not seem to be a usual activity for the FBI.

Looking at the photo of Dr. Miller's home it is very obvious that he installed several 40'-50' antenna towers on his property which is located out in the middle of nowhere. The FBI (or some agency) set up containment/quarantine tents all over his property and there is no identification of any particular government agencies on the vehicles on his property. I was able to locate video showing those towers being removed which would fall under the definition of artifact but weren't mentioned by reporters.

The fact that the the news doesn't mention that this man was very prominent in the development of nuclear weapons, space science, groundbreaking transponder technology, spectral analysis or the sole heir to his famous brothers research on the origins of life is wherein the truth lies.

I would be surprised if this man lives long enough to tell the real story. ~ Anonymous Source


58 posted on 04/03/2014 9:20:17 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php a place to meet when FR is down)
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To: alancarp
"'The cultural value of these artifacts is immeasurable,' Jones said while refusing to disclose details of any of the individual items taken from Miller's property."

How did he come to the conclusion that these artifacts were of cultural value? He's an FBI Agent. Is that his own opinion, or the opinion of anthropologists/archaeologists they are consulting with? Why make a statement like this, then refuse to give any other info on the artifacts they are confiscating? I hope this all blows up in their faces.

59 posted on 04/03/2014 9:20:28 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

You know the FBI is doing something underhanded. Why else would they need huge canvas tents to hide their activities?


60 posted on 04/03/2014 9:21:53 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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