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Obama @ Saddleback Church -Defines Marriage (Flashback!)
youtube ^ | Aug 20, 2008 | deltaman099xyz

Posted on 04/07/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Revelation 911

In other words I’d tell Ansel12 and his ilk: We’ll see your fevered revision of the country’s law codes and raise you, like, a couple of constitutional amendments. Pro-life, and marriage. How would that grab you?


101 posted on 04/08/2014 8:53:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
nah - it'd be the whole pearls before swine deal....

read his page - he's his own god ("sheepdog") - humanism on display, and as such you are expecting eyes to see when they've yet to be opened

though I'd be wise to not limit God in this regard....so cast away my FRiend

102 posted on 04/08/2014 9:11:05 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Maybe you’re right. There just seemed to be a light which wasn’t “on.”

The greatest appreciation for the “hearts and minds” approach is gained by having to strenuously defend it. And here, I did.

God called us to liberty, and of course that does not mean libertine. We can pursue a little blessing, or a lot, and out of a choice of several kinds. Robots with robotic orders we are not.

I can say one thing. After the Obama spendathon, anyone who can slay that money dragon will get a lot of respect. A lot. Fault Paul for being clumsy about some moral issues, but he has this one nailed.


103 posted on 04/08/2014 9:16:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Revelation 911

And yes... it does look a lot like “ceremonial God.” Where the virtues are rooted in man. Nope, man messed up virtue real good in the Garden. Regaining it means submitting all over again personally to Christ, a spirit which tells us not only what but when and how. Looks like this sheepdog’s shepherd is not in view.


104 posted on 04/08/2014 9:22:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Revelation 911; Jim Robinson

So you guys believe that Jim Robinson’s, pro-life, pro-marriage efforts and politics, and his conservative site are because he isn’t a good enough Christian?

Do you see his opposition to Rand Paul’s liberalism as being anti-God?

“”Yup. Only he wants to adapt, evolve and advance the homo agenda and open borders more than the older democrats were able to do. Sorry, young Turk Rand. Young comrade Obama beat you to it. Forward!
25 posted on 4/6/2014 6:03:30 PM by Jim Robinson””

“”Yeah, right. If you say so. Must be a new age Christian. Christians I know don’t go for the anything goes b/s. And Christians do believe in defending life, marriage, family, borders, country to the hilt!!
30 posted on 4/6/2014 6:08:27 PM by Jim Robinson””

“”To: RedForemanRules
Look, pal. You don’t like what we stand for here you can post elsewhere. The Internet is a big place. We have a goal here and you seem to be fighting against it. If you’re not with us, you’re against us. You can move along if you don’t like it. I won’t try to stop you. And I won’t try to convince you. That’s not my job and not my goal. You’re a young pup and won’t learn until you’ve been burnt a few times. You can fight for the isolationist, free drugs, free sex, no borders, anything goes liberaltarian viewpoint to your hearts content. Elsewhere! bye
35 posted on 4/6/2014 6:14:49 PM by Jim Robinson “”

You guys can join the discussion on this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3141542/posts?page=30#30


105 posted on 04/08/2014 10:40:33 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Revelation 911
It's intellectually dishonest...this guy harbors the seed of division

You are the troll who is posting behind my back on thread after thread, I keep stumbling on your libertarian posts where you are feverishly posting about a freeper without letting him know, that is the behavior of a troll.

You claim to be a Minister, evidently a libertarian Minister, perhaps you should engage some of our pro-life, pro-marriage, 'conservative' Christian Ministers.

106 posted on 04/08/2014 10:49:58 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Gay marriage” is something that is forced by the state. Any small-l libertarian who says he wants that is confused at best.

If you oppose gay marriage, then why do you oppose our efforts to reverse the gay marriage laws that are in place and to act politically to defeat the gay marriage left/libertarians?

107 posted on 04/08/2014 10:54:34 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
where did I mention your name? -

have a smoke and relax sparky

108 posted on 04/08/2014 10:55:07 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: ansel12; Jim Robinson; HiTech RedNeck
So you guys believe that Jim Robinson’s, pro-life, pro-marriage efforts and politics, and his conservative site are because he isn’t a good enough Christian?

You're making that leap - how is it I can make an assertion about someone, and you contort it into an all encompassing blanket statement....again, you're being intellectually dishonest, and more so, coyly dragging Jim into this, with hopes (no doubt) of getting members banned

Just so were clear - Im done with this thread, but not before stating for the umpteenth time that it is without coincidence you travel thread to thread bashing libertarians...many of whom are more conservative than some you call brother...If anything, Jim should look into your trolling & continual arguing with anyone you come across...your posts are evidence of that.

109 posted on 04/08/2014 11:04:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Being sleazy and dishonest is not typical behavior for a “Minister”, but here you are.

Your dishonest libertarian post 99 was all about the poster that Tulane responded to in post 8, and you have continued to do it in post after post on this thread.

In fact this is your first ping to me on this thread, although your posts have been about me and my pro-life, pro-marriage politics.

You definitely are displaying troll behavior.

How about responding to post 105, you can even visit that thread link and promote your libertarian arguments against FR’s conservative politics, it will be a chance for you to use your skills as a “Minister” to persuade us away from our conservative politics.


110 posted on 04/08/2014 11:04:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Revelation 911

So you are done with this thread, it looks like all you wanted to do was make personal attacks against an individual freeper.

Why not defend the politics that you disagree with him about?

Why not move to a discussion against his pro-life, pro-marriage, conservative, Christian politics?

As a minister, perhaps you can tell us about why it is wrong to try and change pro-gay marriage laws, and abortion laws and to support conservative politics.


111 posted on 04/08/2014 11:09:32 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Revelation 911; ansel12; Jim Robinson

Yup... contortion (and conflation) city. There is never a stationary target. Only the goalposts in ansel12’s mind. This is intellectually dishonest — which means just plain dishonest.

I think you’re wise — let’s call this one to a close here. But if the one who complains disingenuously about being stalked stalks me again elsewhere, I’ll stand up for Christ’s way of doing things.


112 posted on 04/08/2014 11:31:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why do you guys refuse to defend your political positions, all the while attacking conservative, pro-life, pro-marriage, conservative politics?

I ask you a simple question, the simple question that you treat like a vampire treats the cross.

If you oppose gay marriage and abortion, then why do you oppose our efforts to reverse the gay marriage and abortion laws that are in place, and to act politically to defeat gay marriage, and abortion?

113 posted on 04/08/2014 11:42:53 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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