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To: HiTech RedNeck

See post 7.

Obama is very libertarian on some issues.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 12:40:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Obama has been steered to pretend any old thing under the sun whether it was intended or not.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 12:43:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Besides you beg the question of to just where the “evolution” (cringeworthy term) will go. You keep assuming the conclusion of your argument. That is called the fallacy of petitio principii.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 12:44:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12
Obama is very libertarian on some issues.

No. Obama is very good about lying and deceiving people on some issues. He gets the skill from his god-of-this-world.
21 posted on 04/07/2014 1:01:18 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: ansel12
Obama is very libertarian on some issues.

No, he's not. Obama had his finger in the wind, and the wind was blowing in favor of Prop 8. Hence, his comments on marriage and God.

But there was his base to keep in line. Thus, his libertarian-seeming opposition to codifying traditional marriage in the state constitution, which is what Prop 8 attempted to do. He was clearly trying to have it both ways: Give the Christians a warm feeling about him while reassuring the base.

A month or two before his Rick Warren encounter, Obama had written in a letter to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Club:

As the Democratic nominee for President, I am proud to join with and support the LGBT community in an effort to set our nation on a course that recognizes LGBT Americans with full equality under the law. That is why I support extending fully equa! rights and benefits to same-sex couples under both state and federal law. That is why I support repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, and the passage of laws to protect LGBT Americans from hate crimcs and employment discrimination. And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states.

His support for traditional marriage has since "evolved" as he has "grown in office". Of course, what really happened was that the political winds shifted during his first term, such that he felt comfortable going fully with his true feelings for 2012.

23 posted on 04/07/2014 1:09:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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