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My Little Pony, 50 Years Later
nytimes.com ^ | April 4, 2014

Posted on 04/08/2014 4:27:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

When the Ford Mustang was introduced 50 years ago this month, it was first to break from the gate in a market class that would come to be known as pony cars.

With a long hood and a short rear deck — proportions carried forward by the Chevrolet Camaro, Plymouth Barracuda and many others — the Mustang looked ready to bolt. And bolt it did, as 22,000 wowed Americans placed orders for the car on April 17, according to Ford, the official first day of sales.

Naming the car for a horse proved to be a stroke of marketing genius. Not just any horse, mind you (a car named Clydesdale might never have been so popular) but one that conjured images of rugged wild horses roaming the American West: The drama that imagery invoked was supported by the car’s fresh style and a galloping steed front and center in the grille.

Underneath, the Mustang was essentially Ford’s Falcon, a solid compact that was available with V8 power and a 4-speed manual transmission. Those underpinnings were enough to get the pony car sales competition off to a fast start.

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To: TexasGator

And the years of the cars WERE.


51 posted on 04/08/2014 8:38:46 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: KC_Lion

Hush yo’ mouf’.


52 posted on 04/08/2014 8:48:32 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: knarf

RE Pontiac:
One of my cars that I picked up for cheap - 1975 Pontiac Bonneville, four-door. 46K original miles, still had the rear wheel skirts on it. Blue, with black Landau roof.

200 bucks, from my friend’s Grandma, who wanted it OUT of the garage (grandpop passed away). It was a tank, but I loved that big car ride. That was around 1986 or so. Gas wasn’t awful yet, but that thing was thirsty (400 cu in engine, four barrel carb).

Have a 1992 Bonneville SE in the driveway right now. Needs some work, but haven’t gotten around to it yet. It’s NOT a muscle car, but I love the ride. Nice for the summer.


53 posted on 04/08/2014 8:53:17 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Today is the day of the muscle car. Even my 2008 mustang blows away the old muscle cars ... not to mention handling and comfort.


54 posted on 04/08/2014 9:05:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Good for you, brother. Glad you enjoy it.

Different opinions.


55 posted on 04/08/2014 9:08:54 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vaquero
"I had a 67 Satellite..."

In '66 my best buddy had a tri-power Goat, baddest car around. So I ordered a '66 Sport Satellite Hemi 4spd from his salesman Grandpa. When the car came in I tested it & was signing papers when the dealer said he wanted another $300, I said no and deal fell through.

Went across street, tried to order a Hemi Charger, they said Chrysler had said no more '66 Hemis could be ordered, due to head problems. Turns out the guy who bought the Satellite cracked three heads in a year, only had it on the road two months out of that year...I really dodged a bullet.

So I didn't get a Hemi until 11/68, a Charger 500 Auto, which I still have. Went looking for my buddy with the Goat, but he had traded for a 396 Chevelle family car....damn. But, at least he drove my car and grudgingly admitted the Goat wouldn't have stood a chance.

Pretty cool that muscle cars are making a comeback, and they are making some real ballbusters. Expensive as hell though.

56 posted on 04/08/2014 9:15:07 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: ilovesarah2012

My brother just told me that he’s getting rid of his ‘87 Mustang GT. My other brother had a true bottom of the barrel mid ‘80’s with a 4 cylinder engine. That car was dangerously slow. I mean scary to drive slow.

My brother in Law has a 65 in the barn. Hasn’t even looked at it in years. Too bad.


57 posted on 04/08/2014 9:34:54 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Candy-apple blue? You need to have a talk with your parents about what they were feeding you as a kid!


58 posted on 04/08/2014 9:36:21 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ilovesarah2012
Naming the car for a horse proved to be a stroke of marketing genius.

I'm pretty sure the naming was a mix of horse, P-51s, and SMU.
59 posted on 04/08/2014 9:40:13 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: NFHale

Bonnie’s were a nice ride ... little sway in a faster turn, but a nice, smooth ride.


60 posted on 04/08/2014 9:41:01 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: bert
"...I bought a VW and a used TR 4...

The first year of the Ford Mustangs was my first time in autocross competition. I lost to a Triumph and Cobra, and beat every time submitted by dozens of drivers that took advantage of a Miami Ford dealer's three "loaned" (free) Ford Mustangs.

I competed back then, with my 36-HP VW 1960 Karmann-Ghia!

:)

61 posted on 04/08/2014 9:47:56 AM PDT by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common-Law Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: knarf

Got on the AC Expressway with it, never felt a bump in the road at all. Use to cruise to the shore with it on weekends. The old ‘75 was a sweet cruiser. SS Titanic, but boy was it comfortable.

The 92 is nice too; they called it a “Sport Sedan”, and it’s a lot tighter than the older ones. I would have liked to have gotten the SSEi version, but the $$$ wasn’t there.


62 posted on 04/08/2014 9:53:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Does so

You left out the part about the Corvettes that always lost


63 posted on 04/08/2014 10:01:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: TexasGator
Today is the day of the muscle car. Even my 2008 mustang blows away the old muscle cars

Yeah, technology has really moved up.

Today, a stock 5.0L (302 c.i.) Ford Mustang GT engine is rated at 412 hp normally aspirated with all the EPA goodies. In testing by the car mags, they consistently come in higher at the crank and about 400 hp. at the rear wheels. And they will easily last 100k+ miles with simple normal maintenance.

In 1965, a Shelby Cobra took a cast iron 427 c.i. (7.0L) big block from Ford's truck group and a lot of Carroll Shelby magic to get around 420 crank hp. that could last a whole F.I.A. race or the 24 Hours at Daytona.

Times have changed.
12 posted on Monday, June 03, 2013 6:54:04 PM by 5thGenTexan


Not sure what thread this was from, but about sums it up. Yea, newer cars may be 'better' and have improved handling, but are they really better? The tech hasn't improved nearly as much as you would expect it to, and now there's all sorts of stupid gadgets and other crap in today's cars. A 2010 Mustang doesn't smell nearly as badass as one from the 60s. Their styling may be similar to the retro look, but for the most part they still don't look quite as good as an older model. Something wrong with your car? Good luck fixing it, there's bunches of sensors and wires that could be causing the issue, and for someone who doesn't know much, basic engine maintenance is much more complicated than it used to be.
Yes, newer vehicles are nice. But if given the option, would you really not prefer to own and drive a more classic vehicle?
64 posted on 04/08/2014 10:22:39 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: CrazyIvan

The Barracudas were pretty cool, too.


65 posted on 04/08/2014 10:31:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: edpc

LOL


66 posted on 04/08/2014 10:35:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NFHale

I had a 1973 Chrysler Newport in the late 80s. They had started downsizing cars by then and the Newport was a beast. I was at the gas station one day and I guy came up to me and said “that sure is a big car”. LOL Yes, it was. You could put several bodies in the trunk of that thing. I hate the new small cars.


67 posted on 04/08/2014 10:38:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Svartalfiar

“Yes, newer vehicles are nice. But if given the option, would you really not prefer to own and drive a more classic vehicle?”

I have the option and I go with ‘newer’.

I was planning for my retirement to restore a classic but now the ‘newer’ is better.

I guess I am soft in my old age. Nice seats, nice stereo, GPS, a quarter mile in the twelves and 20+ mpg on the highway.


68 posted on 04/08/2014 10:42:08 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ilovesarah2012

“...that sure is a big car...”

Hahah!! head that a LOT back in the 70s!

I picked up a 1979 Chrysler New Yorker from a police auction some years back. Had 56K miles on it (hard, cop miles, and a LOT of idling time), but it was a highway interceptor car - black, with the blue interior, 360 engine, handling package. That thing was a beast. I drove it for three years, put another 50 or 60K or so on it, and it finally threw a rod bearing.

But yeah... they WERE big cars, and they rode like a dream.

Solid is the word ... that’s what they “felt” like when you slammed the door or the trunk, just a good, solid “THUNK!” when it closed.

I’ll take vintage 60s-70s cars any day.

Always like old Buick Wildcats too, and the Oldsmobile Dynamic and Delta 88s.


69 posted on 04/08/2014 10:44:45 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Svartalfiar

“Something wrong with your car? Good luck fixing it, there’s bunches of sensors and wires that could be causing the issue, “

I ran my 2000 GT HARD for 125k miles .... Problems? NADA.

My 2008 Bullitt problems? NADA.

Major maintenance for both consists of changing the gas and air filters.


70 posted on 04/08/2014 10:49:51 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NFHale

Those were the days, my friend...


71 posted on 04/08/2014 10:53:38 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
the Mustang was essentially Ford’s Falcon, a solid compact that was available with V8 power

in 1964 i was a junior on high school and my dad purchased a 1964 falcon convertible (bumble-bee yellow with black interior) obstensibly for my mom and I to share but she rarely got a chance to drive it. with a little 260 v-8 and 2-speed automatic it was quick enough to get in trouble and it parked extremely well.

72 posted on 04/08/2014 10:55:14 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Here’s a neat site I found.
http://www.desertclassics.com/index.html

Lots of old muscle and classic beauties sitting in this place... little rust, as its in the desert.

Here in PA, if we find an oldie, it’s usually a rust bucket.


73 posted on 04/08/2014 11:08:15 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: TheRightGuy; ilovesarah2012

“..the Mustang was essentially Ford’s Falcon, ..”

I have a book somewhere in my collection, where it talks about the development of the ‘Stang; they showed a shadow silhouette of the Falcon superimposed on the Mustang, and vice-versa. They were pretty damn close.

It was the right car at the right moment for Iacocca. He had a winner.

My favorite body style is the 1967-1968 fastback. Glad that when Ford decided to retro the new ones, they used that as the basis.

69-70 were pretty badass looking too.


74 posted on 04/08/2014 11:15:21 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
69-70 were pretty badass looking too.

i had a 69 mach 1 for a while, 'til i crashed it. About the only thing remaining was the little chrome "1" ... i drilled a little hole in it an carried it on my keychain for years afterwards.

75 posted on 04/08/2014 11:51:00 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: TheRightGuy

“...an carried it on my keychain for years afterwards...”

Guardian Angel on your shoulder brother...

The Boss 351 and Boss 429s were sweet machines.

I loved the fact that you could have so many V8 engine choices in those cars... 260, 289, 302, 390, 427 then 428, cobrajet, 429 Supercobrajet...

It just added to the mystique.

The Mustang II 74-78 was pitiful.


76 posted on 04/08/2014 12:01:34 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; TheRightGuy

And the two different 351 configurations too - 351 Windsor and 351 Cleveland...


77 posted on 04/08/2014 12:11:01 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

My next door neighbor has a canary yellow javelin.


78 posted on 04/08/2014 1:19:05 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NFHale
And the two different 351 configurations too - 351 Windsor and 351 Cleveland...

2 of my boys share a 72 grand Torino (same year as the movie of the same name). They have a 351 Windsor bored/stroked to 427 that was not the original engine. And the original Cleveland which is back in it and is closer to stock. They have throttle body FI replacing the carb on a four bbl manifold tied into the ignition (a kit including FI, distributor and an O2 sensor tied to a computer). It makes the engine run perfect at all speeds and loads. it cranks well for a 351

79 posted on 04/08/2014 1:33:27 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NFHale

Do you happen to know of the site that lists every car ever made? I saw it here quite a while back, and I can no longer find it. I wanted to print a picture of every auto my Dad owned, and give it to him in a little scrap book.

Thanks NFHale, maybe someone remembers the site I am looking for.


80 posted on 04/08/2014 9:09:16 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Vaquero

Didn’t AMX/Javelins use Ford engines, or were they AMC-built motors? I know they had 390 and 360 cu in motors as well.


81 posted on 04/09/2014 5:02:00 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vaquero

“...throttle body FI...”
Fuel injection is the way to go.

Love that 72 Torino body style too. That was the body style change year.

RE Windsor Engine: That was an underrated motor; but done up right, it hauled ass. The Cleveland was the “favorite child” of the two, but I knew guys who loved the Windsor block and made them into street monsters.


82 posted on 04/09/2014 5:10:33 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Hey Dawg Sister!!! Woof!

No, I haven’t seen a site like that. But just google search the models of the cars your Dad had, and you’ll probably come up with some nice images.


83 posted on 04/09/2014 5:12:13 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I’ll ask my neighbor when I see him.
Not an American Motors fan. I do remember they borrowed technology.
I think they used mopar torqueflite tranny’s.


84 posted on 04/09/2014 6:46:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

“...mopar torqueflite...”

Ahh, the 727... NOT the Boeing, but the MOPAR 727 Torqueflite!! Ha!

American Motors went downhill, sadly. Do you remember the Moon Buggy AMC Pacer? or the AMC Matador?


85 posted on 04/09/2014 7:01:19 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

back in 1970 or 71, I had a head on collision with an AMC gremlin...I was already in the intersection, he blew the light. I was driving a 52 Cranbrook Plymouth 6 cyl ‘L’head. I walked away, he went to the hospital.

we currently have 3 torqueflite cars....2 aspens and 1 volare which are really all the same car...


86 posted on 04/09/2014 7:52:33 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

“...AMC Gremlin..”

Wow, I’d forgotten those... they were those little compact hatchbacks that looked like some hacked off the back with an axe.

Bringing back memories...

RE Volare: My mother had a 1976 Volare, with the 318 V8 in it. Not a race car, but it moved pretty good with that engine. It had all the luxury refinements inside. Her first “nice car” as she put it. The Valiant that we had prior (which I wrecked) was an econobox - but it had the push-button transmission on the dash!!!


87 posted on 04/09/2014 8:33:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Like I posted in my first of the thread:

“...and my oldest boy just bought a 77 Dodge aspen 318 that is being seen this year in the show ‘The Americans’. the guy who rents them to the studio decided to sell this one....”

I have short video clips from the show.
It is cool to have this as new shows with the car is still coming out. 2 scenes from last weeks show.
The 318 has plenty of power. Though my son is looking to possibly put a 360 which should bolt right up.

I had multiple cars with push bottom shifting. Maybe as many as a dozen. Been driving since 1965. Had a few with 3 on the tree too.

The torqueflite were ‘bullet proof’ but they weren’t ‘Vaquero bullet t proof’ as my poor old father might have told you while he was still alive. His trannys were often destroyed by my propensity of doing nasty hole shots with his family cars.


88 posted on 04/09/2014 9:47:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NFHale

Ok, I’ll try that. I know there was a site that listed every car ever made, and had photos of most of them. I thought I bookmarked it and but alas, I can’t find it.

Bow wow :)


89 posted on 04/09/2014 2:32:38 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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