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To: Fantasywriter
Now, here is the situation.

The situation includes the context; namely, that the year or so prior to the literary agent's arrival on the scene, there had been national media coverage about Obama being the first black Harvard Law Review president and noting his Hawaiian birthplace. Nero twice reminded you of this; twice you ignored it in your desire to apply tunnel vision to the agency's author pamphlet.

Obama did not approach this literary agent. She approached him and pitched a book proposal. The working title was Journeys in Black and White. Here is the idea in a nutshell:

A boy is born in Kenya to mixed race parents.

You show there is no significance to the pamphlet/bio when you posit the agent was the source of the "born in Kenya" phrase. When the national media (NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune) reported that Obama was Hawaii-born the year prior, clearly the source for that was Obama. If the agent came to the table believing "born in Kenya," the agent was mistaken -- at odds with what Obama had just earlier stated.

He is raised in Indonesia and HI. He ultimately rises to become the first ‘African-American’ president of the Harvard Law Review.

Isn't that the narrative? That a person with his mixed racial background and non-traditional upbringing ends up president of the HLR? "Born in Kenya" isn't necessary to that. "Dreams" itself doesn't state BHO II was born in Kenya, which is an odd omission if that was such a key element to the book concept.

So both of them were well aware of the crucial element re: the starting point of these ‘Journeys in Black and White’ - Kenya.

How can you label that "crucial" when the year prior Obama had told the Times, Post, and Tribune he was born in Hawaii and when the actual book contents of "Dreams" say nothing of him being born in Kenya? Your thinking is rather muddled.

Now what exactly are you saying? That the agent made the entire pitch, both to Obama and to the publisher, on the basis of a fact check error? Can you honestly believe that? Really???

One can sincerely believe that the pamphlet/bio -- which was not part of the book nor even part of the "dust cover" book description, but rather was written by the agency for distribution just to other publishers -- was done in error. Obama's bio was just one of many listed in that pamphlet, and given he was hardly a prominent author at the time, it was a detail easily overlooked.

The only possible scenario is that the agent knew of Obama’s Kenyan birth prior to approaching him originally.

And on what basis would the agent "know" this? Again, try to explain that "knowledge" in light of the national media reports the year prior that state Obama was born in Hawaii. If you say she was misinformed, then how do you explain Obama’s going along with her.

Again, that bio was not part of "Dreams" at all, neither in the book contents nor even as part of any dust jacket description. The book-buying public wouldn't even be aware of it when electing to purchase the book (that is, until recently when that bio got circulated all over the web). There's no evidence that Obama knew what the agency wrote in a pamphlet (his being one bio among several dozen)the agency was sending out to other publishers.

86 posted on 04/15/2014 6:35:43 AM PDT by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

I love that all the known Obot-Trolls are responding to me. This is a point I’ve been trying to make with the Mal-Val crowd. No known Obot-Troll ever, EVER challenges their bizarre theory. Instead, they have to make-believe (as indeed their entire theory is make-believe) that staunch conservative birthers—diehard birthers, no less—are Obot trolls. That tells you what you need to know about Mal-Val.

Now, dear Obot Troll, lets try to get our facts straight. The born-in-Kenya/out-of-Africa book was not entitled Dreams. How many times do I have to correct you Obama-lovers on this point? It’s simple enough. Obama was recruited to write a book that hinged on his Kenyan birth. He accepted a six figure advance on said book. He choomed it all away and wrote nothing—squat. [Which comes as no surprise to anyone who’s ever actually examined his writing. It sucks beyond all possible belief on the paragraph level. He couldn’t have written a coherent book if his life depended on it.]

So, having failed to write the born-in-Kenya book, Obama then accepted a second large advance. He choomed this one too. Michelle finally took matters into her own hands, gathered all the material—a “trunkload”, as recorded—and dropped it all on Ayers. He wrote an entirely different book. A book of fiction. A book of lies.

So now, Mr. Obot, if you can’t even keep your books straight, why should I bother with you? I’ve got less and less time and patience for Obots. Your guy has wrecked it all. He’s an incompetent leftist radical who runs on hate and denial. He’s a disaster. Why do you shill for him? Why not find an Obot site, where you’ll be more at home?

Video recreation of the moment that CpnHook realized he was a liberal on a conservative site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY


87 posted on 04/15/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CpnHook; Fantasywriter

When the national media (NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune) reported that Obama was Hawaii-born the year prior, clearly the source for that was Obama.
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Then similarly, “when the national media reported that Obama” (AP, LA Times, iirc) left for Indonesia when he was two years old, then by the same token “clearly the source for that was Obama.”


93 posted on 04/15/2014 9:21:19 AM PDT by Greenperson
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