I’d probably be more concerned about red light tickets than anything else, by lending my car.
OK, what’s getting soft pedaled here. That often tells the story in tear jerker accounts like this.
This wasn’t like it was a jaywalking ring. It was engaged in a kind of crime known for settling scores with bullets.
Now this is independent of whether drugs need to be banned. Maybe they needn’t. But while they are, something like this is foreseeable and if you aid and abet it shouldn’t there be some sort of repercussions.
I see a lot of unwanted prison sentences handed down in the US.. Is this a result of the Prison “Industry” that wants to keep its “houses” filled to the brim? Quotes intentional..
I’ve read a bit about this one. The question seems to center around whether or not Holle had knowledge of his room mate’s intent. The prosecution said he knew what was going down, and loaned the room mate the car anyway. Holle’s attorney claimed Holle had no idea a crime was going to be committed. On wikipedia, it says Holle appeared to have been told by his roomie what he planned to do, but also that he thought the room mate was just joking around. So, take from that what you will.
Must be more to the story.
After watching the daytime court shows I have learned never be a bank to friends and family; never let friends and family borrow a car; or give//sell them a car without taking your name off the title. Also if you shack up and put money into a house when you seperate a civil court judge may not give you a dime if you break up.
Surprised no one got the Jury nullification going on his trial. I’d have never voted guilty as a juror on that...
outrageous
I always get nervous when I read that a jury put a person away in jail for a long (or very long) time based on a TOTALLY UNFAIR decision.
There is a LOT MORE that I’d want to know about this case before concluding this law should be scrapped and I’m only hearing ONE SIDE here.
Oh good grief, it’s Charles Grodin. Grodin is a big lib who has already made known his dislike of cp and our justice system. Now I’m even more sure there’s another side to this story.
If you are hanging out with “room mates” that cannot even afford to own a car, you are with the wrong people.
Hey Ryan can we borrow your car for a home invasion?
Sure go right ahead.
You can see the bias of the author in this statement. The girl didn't happen to get hit by a falling meteorite. She was killed by the perpetrators. They obviously had some sort of killing devices with them, and intended to use them, if necessary. Holle knew, or should have known, this could happen. There is another side to this story that isn't being told.
This says a lot about operation Fast and Furious. Holder, the Mahdi, and their accomplices damn well knew the weapons that were to be walked would be walked straight to the drug cartels where those weapons would e used for murder and mayhem. There’s a big difference between loaning somebody a car to go on a date and loaning him the same car to commit a felony, just as there’s a huge difference between loaning a gun for hunting or target shooting and loaning one for a felony. In the one case the lender’s probably doing something legal; in the other it’s a felony because of the lender’s guilty knowledge. The guilty knowledge of the Mahdi, Holder, and their accomplices makes them as guilty of the murders perpetrated with the F&F weapons as if they had personally pulled the triggers.
"Ryan writes me from prison telling me that when he gets out, he plans to speak out against the Felony Murder Rule"
I imagine he would. And , for your enlightenment, it is a law, not a rule. There is a difference.
"Ryan Holle will die in prison."
We can hope.
While I agree that it is an unjust law, and needs to be repealed, I’d need to know more than one side of this story. However, I do agree that for these parents to be “selling” from their own house, they bear as much guilt for the death of their daughter as the one who pulled the trigger. This was illegal activity. PERIOD!
What if he loaned him his tennis shoes to walk down to the drug house?
ANYTHING “The Nation” is against, I have to do serious thinking before I decide I agree with them. They’re just that far out on the communist edge of the envelope.
Having served on a jury, I doubt this story. It is very difficult to get a murder conviction, much less when you were asleep at the time of the murder.