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VIDEO: Ukrainian Army Armored Column Defects To Pro-Russians In Kramatorsk
Youtube/Twitter ^ | 4-16-2014 | TCRLAF

Posted on 04/16/2014 12:58:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Seen several tweets of this over the last hour, and now this vid of the defection is posted on YouTube.

The column had apparently been surrounded by several hundred pro-Russian civilians inside of Kramatorsk, with several older women linked arm-in-arm to prevent it's passing

At about 8:50, you can see the commander arguing with someone on the phone..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; newrussia; novorossiya; russia; ukraine
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Right Sector has 0 members in the Rada.”
And Svoboda is what?

Fool yourself, but please don’t try to fool those of us that want to be informed, kid.


121 posted on 04/16/2014 12:14:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Russia just closed a Ukrainian language school in Crimea. There was a thread on FR about it today.


122 posted on 04/16/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: tcrlaf

Fool yourself, but please don’t try to fool those of us that want to be informed, kid.


No you don’t want to be informed. The photo in post 106 is sitting right in front of your face. Those are Russian army commandos operating inside Ukraine. No banderistas in sight. Own it, FRiend.


123 posted on 04/16/2014 12:30:43 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“The photo in post 106 is sitting right in front of your face”

I have a hat that says “FBI” on it. That doesn’t mean I’m an FBI Agent, does it? Ever been in an Army/Navy surplus store?


124 posted on 04/16/2014 12:34:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: KOZ.

You’re real enemy is whomever obama and kerry are supporting.


125 posted on 04/16/2014 1:05:54 PM PDT by RedwM
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All

Today in Ukraine 16.04.2014 - The Miracle of Slovyansk
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3145205/posts


126 posted on 04/16/2014 1:36:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf
So are you saying there isn't Russian troops taking over goverment buildings in eastern Ukraine. When the pictures show then in full russian special forces equipment/gear, with new style assault rifles russia uses. Regular so-called protesters off the street in the Ukraine,won't be decked out that way. AND BY THE WAY -- I feel that the Crimea belongs to Russia, with enough minimal territory for access, but that is all. Absolutely all. No more,,, And I want the US,UN,UK, EU, Nato, to get right up Putlers nose and send him and his little green assh______ home. Ed There he is again...........
127 posted on 04/16/2014 1:41:41 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: tcrlaf

This ain’t Duck Dynasty folks........................

It is same guy and he is not related to Si.. Its other picture of him from Ukraine, I’m getting info from my gun forum Accuratereloading, political forum, who has poster on there from France who is an observer there.He has many contacts, Lots of good stuff about the truth of the Ukraine happenings and russias involvement.......................

The miracle UKraine deal you post is bullcrap propaganda.
The Ukraine military was sent to get out the russian terrorists, the little/big green men, with Russian guns;
and they were not ordered to shoot their own people.
That is why they sat down and ate with their people.
You posted a link to russian tv, putlers propaganda arm

Which russian paid internet group do you spam for.
The one operating out of the kremlin is spamming
our gun forum. You with them or one in st pete
or another of about 20 putler has spamming
about how great he is....Ed


128 posted on 04/16/2014 3:58:23 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: 22202NOVA

Well,yes.

There is a difference however. Our border was won in a war and can be defended firm the sovereign state of Mexico. It would seem we are powerless to stop the flow of non soverign people however.


129 posted on 04/16/2014 4:40:38 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: hubel458

Yes..
Don’t believe my lying eyes, no matter how many different sources it comes from, because it might be counter to White House/Maidan propaganda, right??

I’m not allowed to make up my own mind, based on the facts in evidence??


130 posted on 04/16/2014 4:53:25 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Update on the fighting in Mariupol:

Several Tweets now claiming the shooting is being done by a group of RIGHT SECTOR goons, sent to shore up the Ukrainians in the city base.

Ukrainian Army refusing to take part.

Another gunfight within the last hour or so.
Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OODTX83GvcY#t=13


131 posted on 04/16/2014 5:18:39 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Freelance Warrior

Russian ethnicity is of course still there, but nations are more a matter of ideas. Yes, the God-bearer Nation, the Third Rome, — that nation is now gone. A small remnant remains. We now have the New Historical Community of Men that Brezhnev proclaimed. When you look at the behavior in South East Ukraine: all this flocking to the Lenin monuments, the red flags, the militarism, the cult of the 1945 victory, — this is the Soviet Union spiritually. Has nothing to do with Russia.


132 posted on 04/16/2014 6:35:28 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: elhombrelibre

Thank you for understanding. Personally, this saddens me very much. For the past 25 years I was thinking that while things were not going how I would wish in Russia, they were going in the right direction. All that was dashed in about a month.


133 posted on 04/16/2014 6:37:34 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: tcrlaf
Whitehouse, sh--house, they are really ones enabling putin with their '''flexibility'''............... one fact, people and ukraine army happy, happy, happy, and russian spammers sad, as none russians don't believe the crap propaganda at all...
134 posted on 04/16/2014 6:48:58 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

I wonder if eventually the country will split, parts joining Russia and the remnant comprising a smaller Ukraine?


135 posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:51 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

Hard to tell— Maybe Give russia wide access area NE of
Crimea, but no more, Russians in what is left of Ukraine
who love russia go there and move Ukranians out to west.

They can’t get along well. Russia starved and murdered
many millions of Ukranians in 20-30s to subjugate them.
But that means we put down a line whever we decide it is
and the bully stops there for all time. And we insist for all time or it means war....


136 posted on 04/16/2014 9:30:09 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: MSF BU

Fear replaced communal atmosphere in Donetsk’s Jewish community as armed men handed out a leaflet Passover eve calling on Jews register their religion and property with the interim pro-Russian government or face deportation and loss of citizenship.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

A leaflet distributed in Donetsk, Ukraine calling for all Jews over 16 years old to register as Jews marred the Jewish community’s Passover festivities Monday (Passover eve), replacing them with feelings of concern.

The leaflet demanded the city’s Jews supply a detailed list of all the property they own, or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportion and see their assets confiscated.

Donetsk, a Ukraine province with 4.3 million people - 10 percent of Ukraine’s population - and 17,000 Jews, is home to much of the country’s heavy industry, and is thus the biggest prize of the eastern regions where pro-Russian separatists have captured government buildings in the past week.

The leaflet, signed by Chairman of Donetsk’s temporary government Denis Pushilin, was distrbiuted to Jews near the Donetsk synagogue and later in other areas of the city where pro-Russians activists have declared Donetsk as an independent “people’s republic”, defying an ultimatum from Kiev to surrender.

The leaflet was written in Russian and had Russia’s national symbol on it, as well as the Donetsk People’s Republic insignia.

“Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality,” the flyer began, “due to the fact that the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported Bendery Junta,” a reference to Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement which fought for Ukrainian independence at the end of World War II, “and oppose the pro-Slavic People’s Republic of Donetsk, (the interim government) has decided that all citizens of Jewish descent, over 16 years of age and residing within the republic’s territory are required to report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and register.”

The leaflet detailed what type of documents the Jewish citizens would need to supply: “ID and passport are required to register your Jewish religion, religious documents of family members, as well as documents establishing the rights to all real estate property that belongs to you, including vehicles.”

If the message was not made clear enough, the leaflet further stipulated the consequences that would come to those who failed to abide by the new demands: “Evasion of registration will result in citizenship revoke and you will be forced outside the country with a confiscation of property.”

To add insult to injury, the leaflet demanded the Jews pay a registration fee of $50.


137 posted on 04/16/2014 9:31:41 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

I assume this would not include Kiev?


138 posted on 04/16/2014 9:50:29 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

No just in Donetsk in Donbass region.

But if they get control of Kiev and central
Ukraine probably same crap..


139 posted on 04/16/2014 10:06:47 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: annalex

Don’t you see the similarity between the God-bearer nation and the Communism-bearer nation? The both are taken for the ultimate teaching, source of truth and justice?

Moreover, if the nations are about ideas, what is your version of the Russian nation’s idea?

When anyone living today in Russia or Ukraine have at least one ancestor or an ansestor’s sibling deceased in the WWII, isn’t celebrating the Victory Day understandable, just because of common sense? For example, two sons of my maternal grandgrandfather were MIA in 1941, he himself was wounded into being invalid for service, my paternal grandgrandfather and two his brothers were MIA in 1942 at Kharkiv.

Speaking about the red flags and Lenin - this is just because the Communists were a far more successful government after the WWII that any of the Ukrainian or Russian ones since 1991.


140 posted on 04/16/2014 11:44:12 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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