High court to hear dispute about TV over Internet

AP via Kingsport Times News ^ | Aptil 21, 2014 | MARK SHERMAN

[don-o]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Thirty years after failing to convince the Supreme Court of the threat posed by home video recordings, big media companies are back and now trying to rein in another technological innovation they say threatens their financial well-being.

The battle has moved out of viewers' living rooms, where Americans once marveled at their ability to pop a cassette into a recorder and capture their favorite programs or the sporting event they wouldn't be home to see.

Now the entertainment conglomerates that own U.S. television networks are waging a legal fight, culminating in Tuesday's Supreme Court argument against a startup business that uses Internet-based technology to give subscribers the ability to watch programs anywhere they can take portable devices.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

What are they going to do when the Kenyan gives control of the internet to the UN? Go to court in Russia or Iran? Either way the internet has pretty much destroyed all profitability in media today. Youtube being the biggest culprit which I don’t understand how they get away with it. Here you have Google, one of the richest if not the richest company on earth, which owns Youtube which has just about every song ever recorded on that website for anyone to download, so why aren’t they getting their ass sued off? They even have entire movies on there now! Yet I never read about them getting sued. They got so many movies on there now for anyone to watch or download, that people have started websites listing them! So where are the lawsuits?

http://fullmovies.cc/

[AAABEST]

Either way the internet has pretty much destroyed all profitability in media today.

No. It's just changed the rules and taken control away from the East and West coast (and Japanese and Chinese) conglomerates and the clunky manner in which they were delivering content. They no longer get to pick which art the masses listen to and they no longer make all the money.

Tough s***. The execs from the RCAA could hang themselves in their janitor closets for all I care.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

That’s true, that’s a good part of it is they no longer have control, but I have to say for example if I want to make a movie and I finance the thing myself or if I could play music, record an album, it would be virtually impossible to make any money off it because once you put it into digital form anybody can upload it and the people download it for nothing.

Above all else what I am really curious about is this Google, how they get away with half the crap they pull. They are biggest cause of pirating on earth yet nobody sues them! Look at this, just as an example say I want to get the album “Oh no it’s Devo” even though that is not a well known album, I don’t even have to guess the thing is on Youtube for me to download.....And wadda ya know, here it it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XKl0LEa3Fc

They have EVERYTHING on there, yet they are never sued! How is that possible? Google is making money off this!

[sickoflibs]

RE :”The source of the companies’ worry is Aereo Inc., which takes free television signals from the airwaves and sends them over the Internet to paying subscribers in 11 cities. Aereo, backed by billionaire Barry Diller, has plans to more than double that total.
Broadcasters including ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC and PBS have sued Aereo for copyright infringement, saying Aereo should pay for redistributing the programming the same way cable and satellite systems do.
The U.S. networks increasingly are reliant on these retransmission fees, estimated at $3.3 billion last year and going up to more than $7 billion by 2018, according to research by SNL Kagan, which analyzes media and communications trends. They fear that they will lose some of that money if the Supreme Court rules for Aereo.”

I remember early cable, mid 70s to mid 80s when it was primarily rebroadcast TV (syndicated channels not network TV) and cable companies had huge receive antennas. Broadcast TV didn't look anything like it does now.

Congress stopped that with a bill imposing these fees.
Now broadcast TV is crap anyway,

[Dacula]

We have Aereo and love it in our house.

[PapaBear3625]

That’s true, that’s a good part of it is they no longer have control, but I have to say for example if I want to make a movie and I finance the thing myself or if I could play music, record an album, it would be virtually impossible to make any money off it because once you put it into digital form anybody can upload it and the people download it for nothing.

it's actually a benefit for independent bands and performers. Make and upload a music video, put a link to your website on the video with tour dates and venues, have people who like your music share it around, and make your money from live performance.

The net effect is a proliferation of more music. Anybody can put their music up, and not have to sell their souls to the recording industry.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I remember reading an article once that said the reason the music coming out of the big labels today was so bad was because nobody wants to sign a record deal today because the band/musician loses control of their music and basically gets into massive debt. So almost everything you hear today is pretty much glorified karaoke. They actually hire freelancers to write and record music then they put a “puppet” up front, usually a Disney star, to jump around and go crazy while doing karaoke, and I was like my God, that’s exactly what it is. Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina whahtsherface, all of them were Disney stars at one point. Basically they are actors acting as musicians because these companies can’t get any real musicians to sign with them, so they produce these fakes. That’s incredible. Why would they do that though? Why not get a little lenient in their contract negotiations? Give these bands some more control rather than screwing them over?

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Look at this for example, that Miley Cyrus song “Wrecking ball” that they promoted the hell out of...Look at the writing and producer credits:

Writer(s)
Lukasz Gottwald Maureen Anne McDonald Stephan Moccio Sacha Skarbek Henry Russell Walter
Producer(s)
Dr. Luke Cirkut

5 writers for one song. LOL! Nowhere does her name appear. It’s true, it’s all glorified karaoke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_Ball_(Miley_Cyrus_song)

[PapaBear3625]

Why would they do that though? Why not get a little lenient in their contract negotiations? Give these bands some more control rather than screwing them over?

It's all about copyrights and control. The young musicians are easy to take advantage of and scam. The record labels are hoping to occasionally get a song which becomes a long-term hit, which they can use to extract copyright money from, for the next 99 years.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

That’s what it is, they want minimal investment and maximum return and producing karaoke music is about as cheap as it gets, they just keep throwing it out there and promoting the hell out of it and judging by how many views these songs get on Youtube that formula is working. Pretty sad because in the past a song would sell pretty much on how good it was because all they had to promote it with was the radio, now it’s all sensationalism on Youtube and the internet, doing everything they can to drum up publicity, do shocking things and sadly the lemmings fall for it and in the end the music falls to wayside.

[minnesota_bound]

Many shows to watch here. Here is Top Gear BBC
http://watchseries.lt/serie/top_gear

[minnesota_bound]

Thanks for the link

[foreverfree]

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