What a strange collection of *information?* you have listed here.
Funny that in my perusing of the Bundy subject, I havent come across those sort of *facts* that you have spelled out.
If you really wanted to know the truth of it all, you surely would have come across it by this time, if you had been paying attention.
You sound to me like nothing more than a mouthpiece for the bad guys.
My information and facts started with an August 2103 Free Republic thread, Desert Tortoise Conservation Center to euthanize hundreds of the tortoises, which linked an El Dorado County online newspaper article (from WaPo). I remembered the thread vaguely and looked it up during the BLM invasion of Bunkerville. I normally search for two more confirming sources, and in this case, the first article came from WaPO, so I was clearly going to search for more sources, while reading the desert tortoise links from FR Bundy threads.
“Doveryai no proverya.” (“Trust, but verify.”) - Ronald Reagan to Mikhail Gorbachev.
I read four additional articles, each of which said the same about the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center’s source of funding, budget, decrease in revenue due to decrease in tortoise fees, release and adoption of healthy tortoises, and euthanasia of sick, diseased, and feeble tortoises. None said the DTCC killed its tortoises because it couldn’t feed them. If you are only meeting 29% of your budget, there are more issues than food, and the other articles say healthy tortoises were released into the wild or placed by adoption.
I would be happy to see your source stating the DTCC killed its tortoises because it couldn’t feed them; I’m interested in learning everything I can. If you with to learn more about my information and facts, you may consider these articles. Most of these date from August 2013, when none of us were reading about the Bundy subject:
Desert tortoise faces threat from its own refuge
DESERT TORTOISE: Conservation center prepares to close
NV conservation center will not euthanize 'healthy' tortoises
Government plans to euthanize hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it was supposed to protect
Desert tortoise faces threat from its own refuge*
*HuffPo. Always read with a grain of salt.
Funny that in my perusing of the Bundy subject, I havent come across those sort of *facts* that you have spelled out.
I don’t think it’s funny at all. The purpose of the Bundy articles, blogs, and FR posts hasn’t been to educate people thoroughly about desert tortoise issues unrelated to the Bunkerville allotment, although we’ve been exposed to excellent pieces such as Vernon Bostick’s article in Rangelands magazine, “The Desert Tortoise in Relation to Cattle Grazing.”
Very little in Nevada and the American West related to the desert tortoise focused on Cliven Bundy. It’s been an issue for decades, affecting landowners and real estate developers, and affecting land other than federal land. In Clark County, Nevada, alone, there’s a seven-chapter, twelve-appendix Desert Conservation Program Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan that includes 78 plant and animal species, including Desert Tortoises.
There’s a per-acre disturbance payment/mitigation fee for development (including grading) on private or other non-federal property, if any of those plants and animals are disturbed. In Clark County, on private or non-federal property, residents have to pay the mitigation fee to unincorporated Clark County, Las Vegas, Henderson, Boulder City, North Las Vegas, or Mesquite, depending on where the property is located. Desert tortoise protection goes way beyond the BLM, the federal government, Clark County, Nevada, and Cliven Bundy.
Why would it be funny that there are facts about the BLM and desert tortoises not found when perusing the Bundy subject?
Very little in Nevada and the American West related to the desert tortoise focused on Cliven Bundy. However, the desert tortoise had a monumental impact on Cliven Bundy and why a heavily militarized BLM descended on the Bunkerville allotment.
MSM says that Cliven Bundy is a racist based upon his recent comments. Bundy’s comments DO NOT show he is a racist. Likewise, not everything written on FR or contained in Bundy articles and blogs has been true.
Generally, the untruths are meaningless when compared to the government's use of military force against citizens, corruption at the highest levels, the unnecessary claims of federal ownership to massive amounts of land, particularly western land, the bastardization of the U.S. Constitution, and the abuse of federal power through excessive intrusion, legislation, regulation, and adjudication. However, not everything written on FR or contained in Bundy articles and blogs has been true.
I am sorry we got off on the wrong foot.
Please tell me what truth you think I'm missing? I believe you'll be surprised at how much of the truth we share.
BTW, don't trust what I am telling you. Never trust what you read on the internet unless you already know it to be true or adequately research its truth.
That's because Scoutmaster is better than you.