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So, there you have it. You have no right to carry outside your home without begging for permission.
1 posted on 05/06/2014 3:50:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
this is as good a time as any to post this section of the Constitution that voters in Maine will be voting to accept with the secession vote of June 12, 2018, it deals with the militia but also with gun rights.

Section 6. The Militia and the standing army of 1,000. So as to insure and guarantee the rights guaranteed in this Constitution, every natural born male in the Republic of Maine, upon reaching the age of 18 years from conception through age 67 years from conception, has, as a member of the Militia, the obligation to keep and bear arms for the common defense, for his and his families protection, to defend against this government or any government in the future from becoming oppressive, tyrannical, or in any other way obnoxious to freedom, and to secure the rights written in this Constitution. This obligation shall never be questioned. No law shall be passed that restricts this obligation, except for time in a local jail, county jail or Maine Republic prison. No law shall be passed, test given, or fee assessed to any citizen of the Republic of Maine, age 18 from the age of conception, both male and female, that would restrict in any way that citizens right to be armed either concealed or open. Males who are found to be or confess to being homosexuals are refused entry and from serving in either the Militia or the standing army. Males over the age of 67 may be voluntary members of the Militia with the full rights of Militia members. Natural born males between the age of 16 years from conception to 18 years from conception may volunteer for Militia service with the written permission of parents or guardians. The standing army of 1,000 shall be drawn from the Militia by the commander of the Militia and is under the command of the commander of the Militia who is appointed by and reports directly to the President.


2 posted on 05/06/2014 3:55:04 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The incessant erosion of our rights…of our liberties.

It will take blood to restore it.

3 posted on 05/06/2014 4:11:08 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

All that means is that it is a State issue.


4 posted on 05/06/2014 4:24:21 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“So, there you have it. You have no right to carry outside your home without begging for permission.”
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Ahh....in Cristie’s wonderful blue state of New Jersey.


6 posted on 05/06/2014 4:27:33 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Erik Latranyi
Sounds like it's safe to rob people at gunpoint in their front yard.
And if you fight back by grabbing your gun in the foyer, well,
that would be premeditated.

Or maybe the Criminals stopped carrying guns outside of their homes.

10 posted on 05/06/2014 4:35:15 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This is how SCOTUS obtains “long standing prohibition,” so previously unconstitutional infringements can be transmogrified into constitutional limitations.


13 posted on 05/06/2014 4:53:01 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Erik Latranyi
So, there you have it. You have no right to carry outside your home without begging for permission.

At least not in New Jersey. And I would say the 10th Amendment gives them the right to make that decision. Looks like the Supreme Court agrees.

20 posted on 05/06/2014 5:59:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Erik Latranyi

These judges are dead wrong.

“the right of the people to keep and bear Arms”

Maine Constitution 1820
`Keep and bear arms Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a
right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.`

Massachusetts Constitution 1780
`Art. XVII. The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence.`

Connecticut Constitution
`Sec. 17. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defence of himself and the state`

HISTORICAL and CONTEMPORARY WITH THOSE TIMES DEFINITIONS OF TO KEEP AND BEAR

“TO BEAR ARMS” IS A MILITARY TERM-

TO KEEP ARMS IS IMPLICIT IN “TO BEAR ARMS” In any debate, one should define the terms used in the debate: \
Thusly:
Definition of to “KEEP” to preserve and maintain.. TO GUARD; DEFEND
to “KEEP” `means NOT TO LET GO ONE`S POSSESSION OR CONTROL” “KEEPER”,n., “one who watches, GUARDS, maintains” Webster`s Dictionary, p.460

to “BEAR: 1. to support and move; CARRY. 2. to be equipped furnished ..as to BEAR A SWORD. 3. to be directed; to be pointed, as TO PLANT GUNS TO BEAR UPON AS TRENCH”
-webster`s dictionary 1887

Thus to bear arms means a military action outside the “keeping ‘ of arms, i.e., an action against oppression or tyranny or military or paramilitary attack from the outside of the home.

That is why both terms “keep” and “bear” are in the Second Amendment- the former denotes the control of weapons by individuals; the latter means to use those arms against any military or paramilitary attack from tyranny or attack by enemies of the country or invasion .

Our forefathers weren`t stupoiud so they included both terms.

These judges are dead wrong.


21 posted on 05/06/2014 6:04:20 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Erik Latranyi

You have to show a need to carry a gun outside your home in New Jersey. IT’S NEW JERSEY, DAMM IT!


25 posted on 05/06/2014 7:00:32 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Erik Latranyi
So, there you have it. You have no right to carry outside your home without begging for permission.

I'll NEVER get permission. NEVER get a permit, and NEVER obey any of these unconstitutional laws.

I will carry at will.

COME AND TAKE IT!

29 posted on 05/06/2014 7:19:38 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That’s not what the court said. It means it will let the lower courts figure it out.

There was a great “right to bear” case out of the 9th circuit of all places.


30 posted on 05/06/2014 7:46:20 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

George Zimmerman proved that self defense is just racism. The race of law abiding people may not defend against the race of takers.


32 posted on 05/06/2014 8:01:20 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Erik Latranyi

no, the USSC just decided this was not the case to take on the issue. It is limited to just that district/state/local law.


34 posted on 05/06/2014 8:42:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It is like “freedom of religion” as defined by liberals, sure you can have your religion, but only in the closet so to speak...


35 posted on 05/06/2014 8:42:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Erik Latranyi

The story above is incomplete and half-assed as one might expect. The question was about open carry of handguns. Concealed carry is CONCEALED and wasn’t part of the question. And Jersey is a shotgun hunting state. If you need heat just pack a twelve gage.


36 posted on 05/06/2014 10:29:14 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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Well, America is my home.

where I live is just a crummy apartment.


38 posted on 05/06/2014 12:33:08 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Erik Latranyi
The case of Drake v. Jerejian was heard in private conference by the nine Justices recently. Orders were issued today and the Drake case was listed among those cases denied by the Court.

The easiest job in the world has got to be US Supreme Court justice. You decide if or when you want to hear a case, fall asleep on the bench (Ruth Bader-Ginsburg) during oral arguments, take months to come to a decision, your rulings are written by law clerks, and if you don't want to make any justification for your ruling, you can simply just vote for or against with no further esplanation.

What a bunch of lazy, overpaid for life, bastards, including all federal judges & most state & local judges.

I know what I would like to see happen to them..... spend the rest of their immoral, corrupt lives in prison, doing hard labor!

Is 5:20-21 fits our judges today to a tee. They are morally incapable of rendering any correct judicial ruling! Immoral, corrupt, vain, arrogant, prideful RAT BASTARDS. They will roast for eternity in Hell & the Lake of Fire!

40 posted on 05/06/2014 5:43:06 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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