Posted on 05/08/2014 1:35:32 PM PDT by Kaslin
Just on this basis alone no Democrat should ever be elected to any office from Dog Catcher on up.
It's inevitable that there will be cost overruns and an inability of the government to sustain the subsidies etc. that are counted on now to keep Obamacare afloat. Eventually (probably very much sooner than these people realize) the government is going to go hunting for more ways to pay for the subsidies etc., and they will come after business. At that point, business won't be able to shop around for the best insurance deal for their employees and themselves. They will pay the bill the government hands them, and it will be a lot worse than what they are dealing with now.
Further, if the whole system collapses and the democrats get their way with single payer, it will be even worse for U.S. businesses. I know many of them don't think so, but they will see the light in due course.
Interesting angle. You are probably right.
What I don’t understand is why the talking heads are not talking about how the elderly who cannot pay the premiums will have their homes taken over by the medical industrial complex.
I think that you got it about right. This has never really been about health care anyway. If it were, we would have discussed tort reform, health care accounts, maybe increasing competition across state lines. It has been and is about concentrating power into the hands of the government class. Business leaders need to succumb to them just as much as anybody, if not more. Serfdom. Better get used to it.
.... I finally figured out why they ran this story now. What happened was the original source for this story is actually Kaiser Health News, and...Somebody decided to rewrite the Kaiser Health News release as a news story. They tried to make it look like the website came up with it and that Kaiser's incidentally being quoted here and there....What is noteworthy about that (and you might even say truly sickening) is that Kaiser Health News -- Kaiser -- has been one of the foremost champions of Obamacare. They're one of the many health-related organizations and hospital groups that got in bed with Obama early on....
....the sum total of this is if you get your health insurance at work, your company can dump you into the exchange and more than likely will. It should have started in January. It's been delayed. They can't do it yet, but they're really thinking about it, and now Kaiser Health News is writing about it trying to make their subscribers think they're gonna come to the rescue and find a way out of this. You thought you were safe, and you aren't. So that's the manipulation here that is taking place.
PFL
I agree completely. Unfortunately there are some in here who don’t care if they are or not
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“government is going to go hunting for more ways to pay for the subsidies etc., and they will come after business. “
But businesses do have an option, and that is to move operations overseas and avoid those additional taxes.
The real losers are middle class Americans who will be left with sub-par insurance, and the liability of paying extra for it.
I’m very well acquainted with the new head writer for Kaiser Health News. Just the nicest, sweetest woman you would ever want to meet. Very kind. Always laughing. A big well-intentioned oblivious liberal who makes a LOT of money, lives in an upscale suburb of DC, and has no reality contact at all, at all. No application of logic can persuade her that Obamacare is not a catastrophe. I was warning her five years ago that it was going to be a cluster. I had the data. She just giggled.
“But businesses do have an option, and that is to move operations overseas and avoid those additional taxes.”
There are definitive limitations to that strategy, and it only works as long as you can continue to make money selling to the US, or ‘equivalent’ markets that may or may not exist. Sure, there are ‘emerging’ markets, but China didn’t get its economic footing selling to them. Further, given that many foreign countries don’t respect the patent positions of American companies now, just think how that will go when those companies are out of the U.S., and at the mercy of the same foreign governments that thought it was OK to pirate U.S. technology even when those companies were part of the U.S.
The bottom line is that U.S. business is not impervious to the things that hurt the U.S. public. It will hurt them too. Sooner or later, and my bet is on sooner.
The thing is, the middle man never pays the bills and the employer is the middle man.
What happens when the boss gets the bill? He figures out a way to pay it and that way will be to take it from the employees compensation package. That raise you might expect someday won't happen. It's going to pay that government healthcare bill.
But never underestimate the ability of a government to print away, or delay its problems.
And unionized Kaiser is part of the of that cabal and clearly in on this epic con-job.
Tell that to a CEO who's been incented by a pile of glittering loot on the one hand and a perpetual Sword of Damocles on the other.
The board, not reason or comity or the People of the United States, owns such a guy's attention and compliance preclusively.
Well, now, now that the chips are falling, and given that Kaiser and the rest of the Chamber knew very damned well what they'd "fixed" back in 2008 when "the fix was in" already, perhaps you might want to revisit your estimation of this woman.
Airheaded? In her manner, perhaps. Like, wasn't Mata Hari really popular with all the guys who knew her? Alger Hiss? -- he knew so many people who were just impeccable, the right kind of people. Ditto ditto Kim Philby and Anthony Blount, the Queen's art advisor.
Want to think about this woman a while and maybe get back to us?
Ratcare...
“No application of logic can persuade her that Obamacare is not a catastrophe.”
Uh...so she thinks it *is* a catastrophe, or not? I think I know what you meant, but that’s not the way it reads.
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