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Ted Cruz says Rick Perry isn’t responsible for job growth in Texas
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 16, 2014 | Wayne Slater

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:56:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DannyTN
But Toyota officials said the move to a Dallas suburb had nothing to do with cost-cutting and everything to do with fostering efficiency and collaboration.

"A lesson that should be paid attention to everyone who thinks we can off-shore manufacturing and keep the headquarters and design elements in the U.S."

Hate to burst your bubble, but every company that changes location will claim that cutting costs had nothing to do with it.

The reason is simple: If a union is involved, they are leaving themselves open to all kinds of punitive lawsuits. Under labor relations law, a less expensive operating environment is NOT a valid reason to change locations.

61 posted on 05/17/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01
"every company that changes location will claim that cutting costs had nothing to do with it."

You may be right. Companies that go overseas tend to blame regulations and taxes. Because they fear a backlash if they admit they are seeking cheaper foreign labor with the intent of selling their products to Americans.

62 posted on 05/17/2014 9:12:19 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN; okie01
Here's what Toyota had to say about leaving Australia.
Obviously it's different than shutting down somewhere in the US.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/toyota_exit_changes_the_face_of_OA7WtCEFbo8AyVOBx3361M

Toyota exit ‘changes the face of industry’Citing multiple pressures including high
local costs and an unfavorable dollar, Toyota’s global president, Akio Toyoda,
said Toyota would close its manufacturing operations in 2017. Ford and GM Holden
have already declared they will shut down their car-making businesses in 2016.

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63 posted on 05/17/2014 9:18:57 AM PDT by deport
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To: DannyTN
"Companies that go overseas tend to blame regulations and taxes. Because they fear a backlash if they admit they are seeking cheaper foreign labor with the intent of selling their products to Americans. "

Right you are. Companies did quite well with American labor and regulations before job exporting trade agreements resulted in the wage limbo to get lower and lower labor costs.

64 posted on 05/17/2014 9:29:42 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“Government jobs leech resources from the private sector.”

Government jobs are funded by resources from the private sector, but I don’t agree with your characterization that it’s leeching. Leeching implies something negative. Government is absolutely essential to a healthy private sector. I’m not saying government can’t grow too big and act like a leech, but it’s not true in all cases.

That’s why governments evolved in the first place. People wanted government. They chose it to protect the community, and even a monarch had certain obligations to the people in return for being able to rule over them.

I do agree this is a very relevant point given the excess of government in America, but I’m only using it to point out that government isn’t really a necessary evil as some claim. Man, the so-called noble savage, didn’t exist in some perfect world before governments came along and ruined everything.

No. I don’t agree that Governor Perry didn’t actually create jobs in Texas. If Governor Perry did something that encouraged private businesses to relocate to Texas, he deserves at least some credit for creating those jobs. I agree he didn’t personally create the work, but his actions certainly encouraged job creation.

Why bother even trying to separate the two? Are you fearful of saying government did something good? No insult intended, I just think some people on the right don’t want to give government credit where credit is due.


65 posted on 05/17/2014 10:04:00 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Government is a necessary evil. It is evil because we are only human and it is too much our nature to exploit power of the type that government by its coercive power embodies.

As I said, of course we need some government, but we’ve had if anything too much government for so long now that too little government is hardly a concern.

Instead, we labor under federal, state, and local behemoths that are overfed leeches sucking off the energy from the dwindling private sector.

If Perry has lured a company from another state, he hasn’t created any jobs, though he may have contributed to some relocations and the replacement of jobs for some people with jobs for others. Keeping taxes lower than elsewhere is a good thing, but it doesn’t create jobs. Only those within that geography who actually put together and get up and running a business create jobs.

Why don’t you want to give those working in the private sector their due?


66 posted on 05/17/2014 11:16:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

balderdash.....

Cruz knows that when it comes to credits for things done...... like obama his resume is pretty slim

He talks the talk, but the governors, and there are at least three, walk the walk


67 posted on 05/17/2014 11:19:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: 9YearLurker

“Government is a necessary evil.”

So you believe that government is incapable of doing any good? I’d say that something must be at least partially good by virtue of being necessary. Food, water, and air are also necessary. I think it’s pretty good when I get enough of them, but they can also be pretty bad if there’s too much.

If you say government is always evil because it’s composed of people who are, by nature, evil, then what isn’t evil? The free market is evil. It’s composed of people who act selfishly, and we generally think selfishness is evil.

So I think the phrase, “government is a necessary evil” is just some pat saying we conservatives love to toss out there. It has an element of truth to it and it’s useful for characterizing our ideology, but it over simplifies the very complex relationship man has with government. Tell me, for example, government is evil when it prevents a hostile military from coming in and killing you and yours!


68 posted on 05/17/2014 11:47:42 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: okie01

“Hate to burst your bubble, but every company that changes location will claim that cutting costs had nothing to do with it.”

Not only that but why would any company pick a fight with Democrats? “Oh, we’re leaving California because the Democrats have ruined it!” Yeah, that’s a good way to put your company on the Democrat’s hit list, and yeah, the Democrats are vindictive and will come after you! Think IRS audits, OSHA inspections, etc.


69 posted on 05/17/2014 11:52:35 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

No, as I’ve said in each of my posts, government is necessary. But it is inevitably corrupting and corrupted. That was the premise to our country’s Constitution.

It is akin to fire, which when well controlled is very useful, but when out of control it is disastrous.


70 posted on 05/17/2014 11:59:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“...he (Governor Perry) may have contributed to some relocations and the replacement of jobs for some people with jobs for others.”

This also implies job creation is a zero sum game. It’s not. If the Texas government creates an environment that helps companies proper, it would likely result in more jobs.

How does a government create an environment like that? Good roads, a solid education system, the rule of law, low taxes, minimum necessary regulation, etc. What if your customers can barely reach your business because the roads are bad or they’re robbed enroute? Completely separate government from the free market and what do you have? A minimalist economy based mostly on trade.


71 posted on 05/17/2014 12:02:09 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: bert

“Resume pretty slim” he says?

Cruz attended high school at Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas,[30] and later graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian in 1988.[16] During high school, Cruz participated in a Houston-based group called the Free Market Education Foundation where Cruz learned about free-market economic philosophers such as Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Frédéric Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises.[25] The program was run by Rolland Storey and Cruz entered the program at the age of 13.[23]

Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs in 1992.[2][31] While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society’s Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.[32] In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and Team of the Year (with his debate partner, David Panton).[32] Cruz was also a semi-finalist at the 1995 World Universities Debating Championship, making him Princeton’s highest-ranked debater at the championship.[33][34] Princeton’s debate team later named their annual novice championship after Cruz.[33]

Cruz’s senior thesis on the separation of powers, titled “Clipping the Wings of Angels,” draws its inspiration from a passage attributed to President James Madison: “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” Cruz argued that the drafters of the Constitution intended to protect the rights of their constituents, and the last two items in the Bill of Rights offered an explicit stop against an all-powerful state. Cruz wrote: “They simply do so from different directions. The Tenth stops new powers, and the Ninth fortifies all other rights, or non-powers.”[29][35]

After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor.[2][36] While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review.[31] Referring to Cruz’s time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, “Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.”[17][37][38][39][40][41] At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.[42]

Cruz currently serves on the Board of Advisors of the Texas Review of Law and Politics.[42][43]

Clerkships

Cruz served as a law clerk to J. Michael Luttig of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in 1995[12][42] and William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States in 1996.[2] Cruz was the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States.[44]

Private practice

After Cruz finished his clerkships, he took a position with Cooper, Carvin & Rosenthal, which is now known as Cooper & Kirk, LLC, from 1997 to 1998.[45]

In 1998, Cruz served as private counsel for Congressman John Boehner during Boehner’s lawsuit against Congressman Jim McDermott for releasing a tape recording of a Boehner telephone conversation.

Bush Administration

Cruz joined the George W. Bush presidential campaign in 1999 as a domestic policy adviser, advising then-Governor George W. Bush on a wide range of policy and legal matters, including civil justice, criminal justice, constitutional law, immigration, and government reform.[45]

Cruz assisted in assembling the Bush legal team, devise strategy, and draft pleadings for filing with the Supreme Court of Florida and U.S. Supreme Court, the specific case being Bush v. Gore, during the 2000 Florida presidential recounts, leading to two successful decisions for the Bush team.[42][47]

After President Bush took office, Cruz served as an associate deputy attorney general in the U.S. Justice Department[2][47] and as the director of policy planning at the U.S. Federal Trade Commission.[2][17][47]

Texas Solicitor General

Appointed to the office of Solicitor General of Texas by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott,[12][48] Cruz served in that position from 2003 to 2008.[25][42]

Cruz has authored 70 United States Supreme Court briefs and presented 43 oral arguments, including nine before the United States Supreme Court.[12][17][27] Cruz’s record of having argued before the Supreme Court nine times is more than any practicing lawyer in Texas or any current member of Congress.[49] Cruz has commented on his nine cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court: “We ended up year after year arguing some of the biggest cases in the country. There was a degree of serendipity in that, but there was also a concerted effort to seek out and lead conservative fights.”[49]

In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz drafted the amicus brief signed by attorneys general of 31 states, which said that the D.C. handgun ban should be struck down as infringing upon the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.[27][50] Cruz also presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[27][51]

In addition to his success in Heller, Cruz has successfully defended the constitutionality of Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds before the Fifth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court, winning 5-4 in Van Orden v. Perry.[17][27][42]

In 2004, Cruz was involved in the high-profile case, Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow, [17][42] in which Cruz wrote a U.S. Supreme Court brief on behalf of all 50 states which argued that a non-custodial parent does not have standing in court to sue to stop a public school from requiring its students to recite of the Pledge of Allegiance.[17][42] The Supreme Court upheld the position of Cruz’s brief in a 9-0 decision.

Cruz served as lead counsel for the state and successfully defended the multiple litigation challenges to the 2003 Texas congressional redistricting plan in state and federal district courts and before the U.S. Supreme Court, which was decided 5-4 in his favor in League of United Latin American Citizens v. Perry.[42][52]

Private practice

After leaving the Solicitor General position in 2008, he worked in a private law firm in Houston, Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, often representing corporate clients, until he was sworn in a U.S. Senator from Texas in 2013.[29][42][58] At Morgan, Lewis, he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice.[58]

Cruz also successfully defended, in Medellin v. Texas, the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States.[12][17][27][42]

Cruz has been named by American Lawyer magazine as one of the 50 Best Litigators under 45 in America,[48][53] by The National Law Journal as one of the 50 Most Influential Minority Lawyers in America,[54][55] and by Texas Lawyer as one of the 25 Greatest Texas Lawyers of the Past Quarter Century.[56][57]

Private practice

After leaving the Solicitor General position in 2008, he worked in a private law firm in Houston, Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, often representing corporate clients, until he was sworn in a U.S. Senator from Texas in 2013.[31][43][59] At Morgan, Lewis, he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice.[59]

In 2009, while working for Morgan, Lewis, Cruz formed and then abandoned a bid for state attorney general when the incumbent Attorney General Greg Abbott, who hired Cruz as Solicitor General, decided to run for re-election.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

I dare anyone to find me another 43 year old, ANYWHERE, with that much experience!


72 posted on 05/17/2014 1:00:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for Cruz.


73 posted on 05/17/2014 1:02:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

sorry for the confused post. I know of his experience and thank you for letting me read it again

I want a president with executive experience and prefer one of the conservative governors.

America is currently suffering a tyranny of lawyers above and beyond Barack Obama

I recognize Sen Cruz as a fantastic conservative but believe his best service will be in the Senate


74 posted on 05/17/2014 1:18:30 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
As someone who worked for two ex-governors who became presidents, I disagree. President Carter did a decent job, as far as I've heard, as governor of Georgia, but he was not able to delegate sufficiently in the White House and was obviously over his head as president. On the other hand, President Reagan knew how to delegate and how to talk and debate, which are some of the reasons that his presidency was so successful and monumental. Just having “governor” on your resume insures nothing. Look at how they discounted Gov. Palin’s achievements as Alaska's chief executive in 2008 and since then. Harry Truman was never a governor and was only vice president long enough to get moved in to the Naval Observatory.
75 posted on 05/17/2014 1:26:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: bert

I recognize Sen Cruz as a fantastic conservative but believe his best service will be in the Senate

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I’m not sure how to put Cruz into any category. He has been thru many differing
positions. He seems to be one that moves from enterprise to enterprise. Thus a term
or two in the Senate may be his limit. Consequently eight years in the Oval office
maybe in his sights. We’ll see.


76 posted on 05/17/2014 1:27:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: bert

I’m willing to concede that many people are smarter than I am, sometimes much smarter — for example, Ted Cruz. It’s also clear from his record that Ted Cruz is smarter than almost everyone else, including most Republicans.

Ted Cruz graduated with honors from Princeton and the Harvard Law School, one of whose most distinguished professors, Alan Dershowitz, has gone on record to say that Ted Cruz was one of the most brilliant students he ever taught.

Senator Cruz also served as a Supreme Court clerk; came from far behind in the polls to win his Texas Senate seat; and in a matter of little more than a year in Washington has become a front runner for the Republican 2016 presidential nomination, picking up the most coveted Conservative endorsement — Sarah Palin’s — along the way.

Ted Cruz is an expert at winning, and if he thinks he can win the presidency in 2016, who am I to disagree with him? After eight years of President Obama, only a towering genius will be able to undo the damage. And Ted Cruz is the only candidate who even remotely qualifies. Rand Paul, his principal opponent, is a mediocre product of nepotism; he inherited his father’s supporters.

Do we want a better country or not?


77 posted on 05/17/2014 1:31:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: CitizenUSA

It was very astute of the Texas legislature under Perry to create the Texas Emerging Technology Fund and the Texas Enterprise fund. Governor Perry is correct that these fund have contributed greatly to economic growth in the state.


78 posted on 07/19/2014 5:38:51 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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