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Israel Warns Cruz Against U.S.-Iran Deal
The Blaze ^ | May. 28, 2014 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 05/28/2014 11:45:14 PM PDT by kingattax

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To: rmlew
I don't have anything to do with the nomenclature, that's the name used, and sometimes Pragmatic is used rather than Realist. One example of Realism is Henry Kissinger and Realpolitik.

And Realism is used as an opposition to Idealism. The Liberal Interventionists and NeoCons are Idealists. The idealists advocate for a foreign policy that includes humanitarianism, nation building, and spreading democracy but the Realists say only what is in the US interests. So the Idealists say we should go after Assad in Syria for idealistic reasons but the Realists say only if that is in our best interest. And sometimes the Realists advocate for making a deal with an evil, despotic national leader like Pinochet, in which case it is said that the Realists are Machiavellian.

In the GOP there are Realists, NeoCons, and Isolationists. In the dem party there are Realists, Liberal Interventionists, and Antiwar Pacifists. The vast majority of Careerists(military, State dept, intelligence) are Realists.

A repubilican prez's foreign policy team will always be made up of Realists and NeoCons. A dem prez's foreign policy team will always be made up of Realists and Liberal Interventionists.

21 posted on 05/30/2014 4:26:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: okie01; nickcarraway; kingattax
Now, be aware of the official position of the Department of State as of 1995:
The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit unauthorized persons from intervening in disputes between the United States and foreign governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution.


Now is your chance, nickcarraway, to man up and admit that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong.
22 posted on 05/30/2014 12:24:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: kingattax; killermosquito; tpmintx; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig; Caipirabob; Clump; ColdOne; ...
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23 posted on 05/30/2014 12:28:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; nickcarraway
Now is your chance, nickcarraway, to man up and admit that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong.

He went and slipped over Here:

Watching too much porn shrinks men’s brains and makes them stupid – apparently

24 posted on 05/30/2014 12:57:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: upchuck

I listened to Sarah last night. She’s not running. She did not say, “I am not running”. Everything, and I mean everything, in her tone and body language rejected the notion.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 1:03:31 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
I listened to Sarah last night. She’s not running. She did not say, “I am not running”. Everything, and I mean everything, in her tone and body language rejected the notion.

Can't say I blame her. Then again, she doesn't make decisions on her own. She's guided by faith and family, so I trust whatever direction she takes.

26 posted on 05/30/2014 1:09:38 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I don’t blame her either. They have terrorized her family.


27 posted on 05/30/2014 1:11:47 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie; okie01; kingattax
Okay, now is the chance for us to all man up. Did you read my original post? In 2007/2008 Free Republic was upset that Senator Obama was negotiating with foreign governments and should be prosecuted for it? So, what gives, these laws apply to some people and not others.

Conservatism only works by having a consistent ideology and sticking to it. Too many conservatives are adopting left wing thought patterns. Conservatives are supposed to be for the Constitution and the rule of law. Are you saying that conservatives were unfairly attacking Obama back then, or Cruz is doing something he shouldn't know?

28 posted on 05/30/2014 5:14:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: xzins

Let’s wait, and see.

2016 is still a long way, from now.


29 posted on 05/30/2014 5:18:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’ve no problem with wait and see. At the same time, in my mind it’s 99.9% that she isn’t running.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 5:22:22 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

I am of the opposite opinion.

She was going to run in 2012. Then at the last minute, changed her mind.

I believe four years later, that may very well have resolved itself.

We shall see. :D


31 posted on 05/30/2014 5:24:21 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: nickcarraway; SoConPubbie; kingattax
Are you saying that conservatives were unfairly attacking Obama back then, or Cruz is doing something he shouldn't know?

Obama was negotiating with the Iraq government concerning the terms of withdrawal. And he was negotiating a policy that was counter to the legitimate Bush administration.

That would seem to be a violation of the Logan Act.

Cruz is having conversations with foreign governments regarding their situation, apprehensions and aspirations. There is no evidence that he is negotiating anything or acting counter to any established American foreign policy.

I.e., there is no violation of the Logan Act.

Which is to say that criticism of Obama in 2008 and approval of Cruz in 2014 is neither being inconsistent or hypocritical.

32 posted on 05/30/2014 5:24:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you’re right I’ll buy you a cup of coffee. :>)


33 posted on 05/30/2014 5:29:09 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie; okie01; kingattax
Confirmation: Obama Did Violate the Logan Act By Meddling in Iraq

Ex-prosecutor: Obama's Kenyan activities may be 'criminal' (Logan Act Violation)

Impeachment of Obama under Logan Act: but which of his violations?

Impeachment of Obama under Logan Act: but which of his violations?

Did Obama Violate the Logan Act?

(Obama and the Logan Act) 18 U.S.C. § 953 - Private Correspondence with Foreign Governments

34 posted on 05/30/2014 5:33:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: kingattax; SoConPubbie

“With respect to Iran, I believe we are repeating the same mistakes of the Clinton administration in 1990s with respect to North Korea,” Cruz said. “In the 1990s, we relaxed our sanctions against North Korea response to vague and worthless promises just like those in Geneva now. As a consequence, billions of dollars flowed to North Korea and North Korea used those funds to develop nuclear weapons.”

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Of course. Demonic-rat administrations never comprehend Communists or Moslems because they’re too closely aligned: anti-freedom, anti-American.


35 posted on 05/30/2014 5:43:23 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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