Posted on 05/30/2014 7:48:21 PM PDT by Dave346
I don’t disagree, but I don’t see anything in the Constitution, or at least in VI/2, about Executive Orders, which are therefore intrinsically suspect.
I agree with you, but it’s not just Obama. Snowden has exposed a government out of control, operating beyond the boundaries of the Constitution and the rule of law, and just as has been the case throughout history, those who do so are villified and called names. But it doesn’t change anything.
So your word is gospel, huh?
Other than his word, what evidence has Snowden offered?
Snowden claims there are many more emails to back up his attempts. He claims he was essentially told to sit down and shut up.
NBC has (allegedly) filed a FOIA to obtain his additional emails to his higher ups....FWIW.
Time will tell.
NSA director James Flapper was asked point-blank by Congress if his agency was doing surveillance on American citizens and he lied by saying ‘ No.’
Like Slick Clinton unaware of the existence of the blue dress, Flapper didn’t know that Snowden was about to blow the whistle on his lie.
You like being lied to by your government and spied upon, in violation of the 4th amendment?
In talking about totalitarian governments, Orwell spent considerable time talking about people who “said in their own subjugation and relish the subjugation of others.”
Might that be you he was talking about?
“said in their own”= aid in their own
“Its primary focus was on the question of whether an executive order issued by the president could trump a federal statute.”
The question goes to the very root of Obama’s “fundamental transformation” of America. You citation is at the core of what Obama is unilaterally changing about the structure of this government.
Anybody noticing the similarity in the Russky’s use of Snowden tantamount to the LIBS exploitation of the likes of FLUKE, GIFFORDS, SHEEHAN or any such ‘martyr’ that is guaranteed to ‘embarrass’ the other side.
The only difference is that when the LIBS ‘drop’ someone, they just kind of squirm on the sidelines, popping up on occasion or being wheeled out for ‘special occasions’.
In Snowden’s case, a trip to Siberia is probably in his future - once his usefulness has been exploited for the last time.
Snowden is a Patriotic American who is asking others to stand against tyranny by big gov’t. He’s a Hero. JMTC
My word is irrelevant. When Snowden signed up, he gave his word not to divulge the secrets he had access to. He broke that word. He is therefore a Traitor to his country.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact. The government has valid national security secrets that must be protected. Unfortunately, the government needs computer geeks like Snowden in todays world but it appears a significant number of them are security risks and should never have been given access to the information in the first place.
In my view the only way to make folks like Snowden honor their word is to shoot ‘em if they leak.
And when government oversteps the bounds of their charter/authority, then what?
Then you use the channels that are available to make your case.
Chain of command etc...
So many libertarians love to spout off about the Constitution but they forget that any agreement depends on the integrity of the parties. If an individuals word is worth nothing then claiming he/she is somehow protecting the Constitution is just dumb.
You don’t suppose the oath he took had anything in it about protecting the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic do you? I would be curious about exactly what oath he took. Do you hold the politicians in the same disdain that ignore their oath to our constitution?
“Do you hold the politicians in the same disdain that ignore their oath to our constitution?”
Yep..of both political parties. But even the idiots in Washington, for the most part, don’t leak the national security secrets they have access to..
Oh just CIA station chief in kabul and the shenanigans of pat leahy aka leaky leahy and teddy kennedy talking to the Russians during the Reagan presidency.I could go on.The rules for thee but not for me meme rules in DC.
Nothing so they just want to hang him for no reason I guess.
You mean like Ted Kennedy?
Other than the government saying he has done irreparable harm, just what exactly do you know that he did? Who has been harmed, other than a bunch of NSA types having their bell rang?
you’re right, you have nothing to say. all you can do is throw around a word - “traitor” - but you are unable to explain or justify it. like a kid who has a big new word he likes to use, but doesn’t understand.
You too young to remember the traitors in the Senate that revealed CIA operatives and got them killed during Ronald Reagan's administration?
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