Posted on 06/05/2014 10:56:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right
Regarding the Bergdahl prisoner swap, most conservatives are criticizing Obama's deal because Bergdahl might have been a deserter, or even a traitor.
That might be true, but it's the wrong way to go. The swap is bad mainly because of the price that the USA paid. Suppose it were 1942 and the Germans had captured an American sailor who had fallen (or jumped) overboard. Would FDR had swapped that sailor for, say, five crack U-Boat commanders? No way. But that's just what Obama did.
One more...
5. for lying about the state of health of Bergdahl - that he was in imminent danger - and using that as the excuse for the swap and why he couldn’t tell congress.
Criticism is all well and good, but we need ACTION. Congress, if they are not willing to impeach, should at least change the laws to make it harder for obama to repeat this fiasco. The Constitution says congress has the power to “make rules concerning captures on land and water.”
“Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.”
I don’t find you entirely wrong, but neither do I find your fine point of emphasis to be worth haggling about.
This scandal has many levels of wrong-doing, all intertwined. I find Obama’s tyrannical abuse of power the most worrisome aspect for our country overall, with the efforts of his “most transparent” administration to stifle the truth running a close second. The general contempt for the military is also a larger issue than the specific five bad guys released, and the precedent this swap sets for further kidnappings of American soldiers and civilians is also a bigger issue for me.
There are so many things wrong with this trade it is mind numbing.
In the past, people would say, that someone who went around shooting a lot of people, wither went postal or went muslim. Now they are saying if you got lied to, you got riced. Someone just coined a new slogan.
Conservatives are criticizing the Bergdahl prisoner swap for the wrong reason.,
You are correct in principal, but in practice there are so many things wrong with that deal on so many levels that the focus of criticism is more on prioritization of the seriousness of each individual issue
It's a target rich environment for criticism
There are 6 distinct reasons, this is an 0bama hexifecta:
1: It is a law violation, black letter law indicates that the president is to notify Congress 30 days in advance.
2: Returning 3 top officers to a conflict that is not over by any conceivable measure.
3: It sets a paradigm for future kidnappings/ransoms of essentially unlimited scope.
4: It was done for a deserter or defector.
5: There is absolutely no way on earth that the father of the deserter was not checked out with extreme seriousness in advance of the Rose garden ceremony. *Anyone* getting within arms reach of the president is checked out nine ways to Sunday by the Secret Service. Therefore it is impossible that the SS did not know everything about this guy, including his contacts with the Taliban or Al Queda or whomever. It is thus impossible, then, that the Taliban has been seriously emboldened by this move.
6: Even among the most liberal of liberals, this cannot have produced any sort of positive reaction among 0bama’s staff, nor Congress as a whole, nor any of his possible consultees, including any remaining military brass, unless they are card carrying members of the Muslim brotherhood or hopelessly sycophantic ass-kissers. It is thus an indication that he does not give a crap about any sort of rationality and is ready to proceed directly to the most enemy-friendly configuration imaginable.
Now...this is not the first time he has scoffed at black-letter law, not the first time has has ignored Congress, etc; etc.
Despite all that, 0bama has managed to shock the crap out of the world with this. This is a veritable salad bar of anti-American, anti-law, anti-Americanism that’s simply jarring.
No one is more important than another except for whatever the focus of the discussion is for that moment.
We are in a struggle for the support of the great American middle. For they will decide the midterms in 2014, and then the presidential election in 2016.
Those folks will be very sympathetic to any attempt to get an American home. So a conservative argument that Bergdahl doesn't “deserve” to come home will fall on deaf ears.
But an argument that the swap was very uneven will resonate with the American middle, veterans or not. That's my point. Hit Obama where it will really hurt him.
zer0 has been above it all for since his coronation, but this has him and them back-peddling. The more they attack, which is really all they know, the worse it gets for them
Just keep feeding the fire, elections are coming fast
Elections are being held in 8 days and a non-Taliban leader will be chosen. In one year (if they stay out that long) these 5 Taliban leaders will be back in Afghanistan to start getting the Taliban in control. Obama will probably have released the rest of the detainees and moved the rest of our troops out by 2016. The Taliban will take over and we are right back at 2001.
Problem with the comparison... Germany is a country, the Taliban are terrorists.
Wow. You really missed your chance to make an easy $100. Before your post, I would have instantly bet you $100 that Matthews was for the deal, if only because it was Obama's baby.
I guess the tingle is gone, at least for now.
That pig won’t fly.
No, you are right.
When the political winds shift in an ugly direction, and especially when he's getting hammered by yet another scandal (VA incompetence), Obama stands with the Islamists!
Yeah I agree, the wrong way to go... I have never said he should have been left behind which is the lefts argument they keep putting into Conservative mouths. Brings up a point that I Always wondered though, why Israel always gave 5 or 10 to 1 prisoner swaps... I also cant see this guy being guarded half as good as Osama bin laden was and why a team going in and getting him was not preferable to releasing 5 of our enemies leaders.
The smile on our commander in chiefs face when Mr. Bergdahl praised Allah said it all...
Extra prayers up for all our soldiers still in Afghanistan especially with our announced withdrawl, now as they are all high value targets to be captured and traded for more Gitmo releases in the short time before we leave.
I plan to spread it around as much as I can. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. And please consider posting the video as a new FR topic. It really needs to get out there.
Once again, when you sign on the bottom line, your life is forfeit in any given situation, whether by an enemy or just every day work. Too bad.
Why should we care about his health? I am going to say it over and over that is what free men and women sign onto the bottom line knowing they may be killed, maimed, or captured. That's the military. Personally, I believed he deserted, but if not and just wandered off and got captured - so what? Bad day for him, even worse for many others.
Shall we talk about all the Iraq/Aftganiscrap grunts who are trying to re-build their lives with missing body parts? Does anyone think a Ranger, SEAL, Delta Force wouldn't expect to be tortured and killed, not to mention the average grunt on patrol? Why wasn't Bergdahl beheaded or strung up years ago? He wasn't imprisoned by some benign local tribe, the Taliban had him.
I have never been more disgusted with Obambi than I am now. Really? Five high level terrorists for one low-level grunt? Hell, I would have killed myself in any way I could before I'd let that happen.
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