[Michael.SF.]

He is kidding himself; virtually all colleges are of profit, some just hide it better than others.

[AppyPappy]

For-profit colleges sell dreams to gullible people. Only 3% of people who enroll in online schools will graduate.
For a large segment of people, going to school is really avoiding work. If you go to the Dave Ramsey forum, probably 50% of the people in financial hardship are enrolled in classes. Many of them are in online school. They are going into debt to get out of debt. It’s foolish. Unless you go into nursing, your income is not going to skyrocket because you got a degree.
The reason why people have high student loan debt is because THEY SIGNED UP FOR IT VOLUNTARILY. It’s the same reason they have car debt and credit card debt. It’s their fault.

[PapaBear3625]

Two main reasons that “for profit” colleges are disliked by the educational establishment:

(1) They offer classes in practical skills, more than in “gender studies”.

(2) Professors who use their class time to rant against the patriarchy or racism are much more likely to be fired.

[Carry_Okie]

A “liberal education” should be done well before a student graduates from high school.

[Carry_Okie]

BTW, if you want to transform education, this is one way to do it.

[Ford4000]

Non-profit colleges, on account of their tax status aren’t corrupted by money and self interest like everyone else. We know this because they assure us it is so.

[righttackle44]

C'mon guys. If, IF these were shoe stores or grocery stores, you all would be complimenting them for their making money in hard times.

I graduated from a four-year liberal arts school. My classmates had to work to make their educations pay off. (One of my classmates is a world-class coloratura soprano whose career was in Europe. Her videos on YouTube show her various encore performances.)

As for the argument that students are going into debt to get out of debt is a senseless one. It isn't the fault of the schools that a student makes the decision. After retiring, I worked for awhile for a profit-making university. The students who came to us were mostly remedial and/or desperate. Many of them had urinated away their undergraduate years quaffing vodka or tequila and suddenly found that Daddy wasn't going to put up with that anymore. Students went from classrooms to asking the most famous post-dropout question, "Would you like fries with that?"

When I went to school, my university was famous for it's traditional liberal arts education--classes during the day with the occasional night class to accommodate professors' schedules, not necessarily the students'. And, every semester, a woman in the business office would seem me coming down the financial settlement line. She would have the promissory note ready for me to sign because she knew that I didn't a dime to pay for that semester, despite the fact that the school's policy was that you had to pay 50 per cent of one's total billing before signing a note.

That school, because it has gone online and and began offering education across the board, has increased enrollment by hundreds of percents, has improved the campus facilities--yes, it actually has a campus--and built a brand new sports center. The basketball team is coached by a former NBA player often named as the best sixth-man, and a former owner of NBS and MLB teams, is an adjunct professor in the sports management degree program. And our school has recently gone from a NAIA sports program to a Divison Io a Division One program.

And, it doesn't hold a pistol to ANYONE'S head and force them to apply for and receive financial aids including loans, grants, and scholarships. The student makes the decision to do that.

I think my alma mater is a successful, character-growing academic institution on par with many Ivy League schools. It will never have the endowment or Harvard or Yale, but by gosh, I think we beat the glutei maximi off their basketball teams.

[Chewbarkah]

“different modality of perception and belief construction”

Good grief. This BS doesn’t stand for Bachelor of Science.