I know this is argumentitive, but I think it’s a concept we need to deal with here.
We talk of allowing the Islamic people take each other out. It’s a concept that works in limited situations like Iran vs Iraq. We helped just enough to help that come to a draw, sapping both nations.
Here were talking about a broader scope. We’re talking about one group ISIS, ISIL, or the Muslem Brotherhood capturing large areas of the Middle-East, then turning those areas into a greater Islamic Republic.
Should we stand by and watch that happen?
Let’s narrow the scope back to just the greater Iraq situation.
Let’s say Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria become one larger player. If that does happen, we’re talking about a rather large region controlled by a very radical group.
Is that something that would be wise to let happen?
Over the follow twenty year, a whole new generation of extremely radical anti-U.S. people would emerge.
Do we just sit back and allow this to take place?
Do we wait until another 09/11 or worse takes place to react?
Watching some folks here, it’s unclear if they think we should react even then. Out come the anti-nation building brigades, the allow Muslims to take each other out brigade, and we’re completely neutered as a nation.
What is the proper role of the United States in these situations? Stay at home and hope?
It seem to me engagement is an option. I’m not convinced it’s the worst one when we’re talking about global players who will come after us, and we damn well know it.
Do we get involved there, or do we simple allow them to hit us on the nose over and over and over and over...
“I know this is argumentitive, but I think it’s a concept we need to deal with here.”
Not argumentative to me anyway. Here’s my brutally frank opinion on this:
The last time this country (when it was the country most of us knew) was at war with a suicidal, fanatical entity (Japan), we defeated them by starting a campaign of literally blowing them off the face of the earth. Erased. Gone. The Japs have been good little bitches since then.
Same principle applies here, only with better weapontry: Muslims are the enemy, a suicidal and fanatical enemy. Kill them all. We have the technology, use it. Deport the ones that are here, en masse, and exterminate them in their sh*tholes where they crawled out from.
This country should never send another person to die “over there”; send the bombers in and, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, blow them off the face of the earth. Then let’s see how “bad” they are.
They are sub-animals; they only understand fear and death. Give it to them, everyone else will be better off.
Engagement???
Try focusing on protecting Americans and let Allah sort out their civil war as Palin once wisely said. Too much American blood already spilled in the hopeless task of straightening Iraq out.
Megyn babe had great show tonight.
First she had on the Cheney's together, and she did her job,
Instead of just letting them read their points she read a memo with a bunch of claims/promiDes Cheney made on Iraq :”Will welcome us as liberators”, “WMDs” , ‘We turned the tide”(2005)
They clearly were surprised to be confronted with his own words, as Rush, Levin and Hannity never brought them up in all the kiss up interviews that they gave them.
Then Glenn Beck comes on and she reads a couple of predictions that he made that came true in the Mid East.
So she asked him if we should go back into Iraq now and Glenn Beck replies :”No that would be a big mistake. We cant fix them. I will admit I was wrong in 2003 thinking that invading Iraq was the right thing to do and that we could make the place better. That is impossible. We need to focus on fixing America now. This place is a mess”
The premise of your question is very flawed.
Capture from who?
The Iranian backed Shiites?(those we are supposed to save?)
They are are American hating devils.
The side we were on has their soldiers fleeing like rats in civilian clothes handing over their US weapons to those groups you cite.
I say not one MORE drop of American blood for those cowards,