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Doomsday prepper father accused of plotting to kill federal agents and stockpiling guns and explosiv
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 20, 2014 | Joel Christie

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:34:51 PM PDT by kiryandil

Federal agents this week searched the Florida home of a 'doomsday prepper' they alleged had stockpiled over 50 high-powered assault rifles and several explosive devices buried around his property as 'booby traps'.

However the warrant showed up little more than barrels of food.

Martin Winters, a father-of-three from Valrico, surrendered to police on Wednesday following a widespread two-day hunt.

Investigators had claimed the 55-year-old was preparing for 'an end-of-times event as prophesied by the Book of Revelations', according to ABC News...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; feos
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“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”

Wonder how many taxpeasant dollars they blew on THIS particular FBLIE snipe hunt?

1 posted on 06/20/2014 9:34:51 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Don’t worry they will find something. Now days the law is so complicated and so easily twisted that everyone and anyone can be found guilty of something.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 9:38:18 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Five guns were found locked in a safe, according to 10 News.

I'm surprised they didn't claim they found "thousands of rounds of ammo" (aka a couple of boxes of .22LR.)

3 posted on 06/20/2014 9:41:22 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Kartographer

> Don’t worry they will find something. Now days the law is so complicated and so easily twisted that everyone and anyone can be found guilty of something.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

Ayn Rand


4 posted on 06/20/2014 9:44:17 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Personally I wouldn’t be all that surprise to have them knock on my door someday. Sadly when they do though I will more than likely never know for sure It will be a FReeper who will ‘turn’ me in for being a prepper.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 9:47:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: kiryandil

Investigators had claimed the 55-year-old was preparing for ‘an end-of-times event as prophesied by the Book of Revelations’, according to ABC News...


Is that illegal?


6 posted on 06/20/2014 9:49:04 PM PDT by boycott
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To: kiryandil

There should be a law, when ever they execute a search warrent for a prepper, they should have to pay the prepper 10x the value of his income for what he would be liable for if they actually found what they were looking for.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 9:59:07 PM PDT by dila813
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To: boycott

Yes. Yes it is.
In fact the Boy Scouts’ have ditched their ‘Be Prepared’ slogan for their new and improved motto: “Be fabulous!”


8 posted on 06/20/2014 10:00:17 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: kiryandil

They found nothing but some buried barrels of food and five lawful weapons stored in a home safe, yet the guy is still in jail and not set for trial until July 17. Someone explain to me how that is legal?


9 posted on 06/20/2014 10:02:13 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: kiryandil

He stockpiled guns?! HOW TERRIBLE!

But the feds stockpiling guns? Totally okay!


10 posted on 06/20/2014 10:13:47 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ponygirl

‘They found nothing but some buried barrels of food and five lawful weapons stored in a home safe, yet the guy is still in jail and not set for trial until July 17. Someone explain to me how that is legal?’

This has nothing to do with the law, this has everything to do with intimidation of other gun owners.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 10:17:23 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: kiryandil

“But we also must concern ourselves with the continued danger we face from individuals within our own borders who may be motivated by a variety of other causes from anti-government animus to racial prejudice. To that end, I am announcing today that the Department of Justice is reconstituting a committee on domestic terrorism that was first established nearly 20 years ago under my predecessor, Attorney General Janet Reno, in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing. In the wake of that incident, the committee met regularly to assess and share information about such ongoing domestic terror threats.”
-Eric Holder


12 posted on 06/20/2014 10:23:20 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Kartographer

1. Keep your mouth shut. NO ONE needs to know about your preparations.

2. If someone finds out you are “hoarding”, just refer them to this DHS site:

http://www.ready.gov/kit

and tell them you’re just following the government’s guidance.


13 posted on 06/20/2014 10:32:02 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: ponygirl

Legal smeegal. The law is what the cops say it is. As a cop told me in 1973 “You’re guilty if I say you’re guilty.” The cops have been out of control for a long time. And I’ll bet you’ll be hard pressed to find one who has ever read one word of the constitution.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 10:37:34 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Sooth2222

They’re with the hard drive


15 posted on 06/20/2014 10:45:48 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: boycott
Local opinion is...the man is the good, trustworthy, go-to-for-help type of unofficial “rural blue collar community leader” for long time locals, in a very small community, who desire competent direction in an emergency.

Hurricanes, imported criminals, dirty cops, corrupt feds trying to entrap local men...etc.

I don't state that as fact, just saying that's what I overheard somewhere.

We the people, have some issues with violent criminals, gangs, and/or illegals around here, in the largely lower middle class, rural and suburban areas.

16 posted on 06/20/2014 10:51:12 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

It’s like that little Nazi d-bag said to Santilli at Bundy Ranch: “Your constitution doesn’t apply out here on the dirt! Your constitution will be decided from jail!” And these little Brownshirt Fascists believe it.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 11:11:59 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

I hate to even think it but fire is going to have to be fought with fire. The people will have to become what they hate in order to stop from being forced into a life they hate.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 11:15:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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However the warrant showed up little more than barrels of food.

Great intel they put together there.

19 posted on 06/20/2014 11:20:14 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TigersEye

After he gets done with this lawsuit, there’ll be no need to prep!


20 posted on 06/20/2014 11:40:50 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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