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IRS CANCELLED Contract with Email-Storage Firm Weeks After Lernerís Computer Crash
daily caller ^ | 6/22 | howley

Posted on 06/22/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by RummyChick

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) cancelled its longtime relationship with an email-storage contractor just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials’ computers allegedly crashed.

The IRS signed a contract with Sonasoft, an email-archiving company based in San Jose, California, each year from 2005 to 2010. The company, which partners with Microsoft and counts The New York Times among its clients, claims in its company slogans that it provides “Email Archiving Done Right” and “Point-Click Recovery.” Sonasoft in 2009 tweeted, “If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your severs?

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KEYWORDS: communistbastards; coverup; dojrico; gettherope; howconvenient; impeachnow; irs; irsemailarchives; irsemailcontract; irsrico; irsteapartyscandal; lerneremails; loislerner; nojustice; obamasfault; obstructionjustice; thugocracy; tyranny
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To: RummyChick

Prison is the only thing that will stem the tide of lawlessness from this Government.

Special Council NOW and the perp walk for many who obstruct justice.

Obama’s Blackness will matter little in the open court of law.

Justice must be openly pursued and the public must watch.


101 posted on 06/22/2014 11:44:54 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: savedbygrace

As the contracted e mail archiver there has to be ‘by law’ a paper copy of the e mails that Sonasoft was responsible for in that time frame....because they were being paid to do the e mail protection. If they did not do it....that has nothing to do with what they should have done.


102 posted on 06/22/2014 11:57:17 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: R0CK3T
There's a fear of 'black backlash' and mass civil disobedience if anyone dare touch the black Messiah in the WH with impeachment, etc..

But wait a minute here.. What's WORSE, mass black civil disturbance or Obama's continued widespread destruction of America both domestically and abroad?

I say, confront Obama with impeachment and/or criminal prosecution and deal with the backlash as it comes.

103 posted on 06/22/2014 12:05:19 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Georgia Girl 2

>> Issa just needs to start subpoenaing

Issa the Diffuser.


104 posted on 06/22/2014 12:07:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Let there be a “blacklash”. As we have seen before they will burn down their own places (and this time we tell our politicians NO money for the animals). Once they are done with their own areas and start to trounce other area’s, they will be shot. I know I am not letting some racist bastards damage my property or assault me.


105 posted on 06/22/2014 12:16:24 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Steven Tyler

Kickbacks! Oh, yeah. It’s pretty much guaranteed that there are Kenyan/dimokrat kickbacks involved in all these contracts since 2009. Assuming otherwise would mean not paying attention for the past five years. That’s why we can’t seem to cut feral spending-—the dims would take a cut.


106 posted on 06/22/2014 12:16:39 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: RummyChick

soetoro is just sticking his middle finger in America’s and the Republican’s face, saying “What are you going to do about it?”


107 posted on 06/22/2014 12:20:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: RummyChick

Records Control Schedule for Tax Exempt and Government Entities

38. Exempt Organization Case Files.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-015-024.html

- - - -

Disposing of Records

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-015-003.html


108 posted on 06/22/2014 12:22:35 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: RummyChick

The crashed hard-drive story is so over-the-top that it reeks of red herring. Lois Lerner, et al., knew that they were engaged in illegal activities. They knew that official communications get archived and are subject to FOIA requests and subpoenas. Isn’t it likely that a substantial portion of the most damning e-mails were never in official government accounts, but were sent on private accounts on personal smart-phones, laptops, etc.?

A special prosecutor with an investigative staff is needed immediately. I believe there is no SP law currently. The Dem’s will fight tooth and nail to stop a real investigation from happening. Now is the time to force them into covering up the cesspit they have created. Even stupid voters know this is preposterous corruption.


109 posted on 06/22/2014 12:22:46 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Right Brother

When all those people who didn’t sign up for “free healthcare” don’t get their refunds next year, EVERYONE will know all about the IRS.


110 posted on 06/22/2014 12:52:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: tired&retired; maggief; LucyT; hoosiermama; Liz; onyx; crosslink

tired&retired,

many thanks for that most informative post!

all y’all, ping to this one also!!!!

What level is a violation of this no-spoliation rule, is it a misdemeanor or a FELONY?


111 posted on 06/22/2014 12:55:08 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: RummyChick

You know, if things ever let loose in this country, I wouldn’t want to live within a couple miles of anyone who was ever associated with that agency.


112 posted on 06/22/2014 12:58:00 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: RummyChick

Big difference between this and Watergate.

The media would do anything to destroy Nixon.

The media will do anything to protect Obama.


113 posted on 06/22/2014 1:04:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gaffer

It is because close to half of the voters in this country do NOT pay taxes, so why should they care.


114 posted on 06/22/2014 1:14:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: RummyChick

True, but there was further scuttlebutt about “recycling” the drive, which could mean destruction of the disks and/or heavy-duty wiping of the drive along with pulverizing the drives. But again, this data IS stored elsewhere. They simply need to get it before Odumbos cronies get it.


115 posted on 06/22/2014 1:17:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: RummyChick

This thread is living proof of how much misinformation, bad information and outright guesses in lieu of the real facts we have to deal with when it comes to the IRS scandal. That’s really not intended as a criticism. It is simply an observation.


116 posted on 06/22/2014 1:18:42 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Right Brother

Don’t forget to find the latest slutty action by the Kardashians!!


117 posted on 06/22/2014 1:40:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: RummyChick

This makes things easier - now find the person that cancelled the contract & get the details. (who made the decision under what circumstances)

Next, find the company hired to take over this critical responsibility, and examine the transition plan.


118 posted on 06/22/2014 1:41:37 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Gene Eric

Issa plays the part of “concerned guy” really well.

Unless, of course, one expects any results.


119 posted on 06/22/2014 1:42:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kackikat

No, you are wrong again.

The IRS was leasing software from them. That was their only responsibility, to provide software. The IRS retained the legal obligation to retain paper copies of documents.

And the contract was only for the IRS Office of Chief Counsel, not the department where Lois Lerner worked.


120 posted on 06/22/2014 1:45:18 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Just when you think it can’t possibly get any worse. This level of corruption stinks beyond anything I’ve known previously in my 62 years.
Why does ANYBODY trust U.S. Gov about anything?

Why is every outraged American not shouting from the rooftops,

RICO LAWS PROSECUTIONS!!!

121 posted on 06/22/2014 2:57:45 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: WildHighlander57

States are split between whether intentional spoliation of evidence constitutes a felony.


122 posted on 06/22/2014 3:06:21 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I agree with you 100%.

Obama is destroying the fabric of this country, riots and violence will run its course and will be recovered in due time.

While many blacks will revolt, not all will.

What the structural destruction will accomplish if far worse and far reaching in terms of time than the short term damage of racial provocation from the child in the WH.


123 posted on 06/22/2014 3:09:16 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It’s a blatant lie, and everyone knows it. But Obama thinks he can get away with this stuff.”

That is because he has been allowed to get away with everything else - so far

He knows that nobody has the balls to do a thing about his tyranny - not Congress, and not the American people.

We should all be filing “exempt” on our W4s, and then refusing to file a tax return. Otherwise we are complicit in everything this immoral criminal enterprise commits. AND not one of us may claim “coercion” - to do so is utter BS ... Not one of us can be coerced, as all of us have free will, and the ability to refuse our cooperation with this cabal of fascist pigs.

The ONLY reason for Americans to allow this the continuance of this criminality is that we all would rather keep our precious “stuff,” rather than to actually stand up, like real men, and fight to keep our country. That IS THE bottom line in ALL of these “scandals.”

The American people have become fat, stupid, lazy, materialistic cowards. Therefore - they deserve to loose both their freedoms and their country! And, mark my words, THEY WILL ...

95 percent of this population will go down with a slobbering whimper, and will never lift a finger to fight - AND Obama and all his willing government cronies are fully aware of this fact; which is why they continue to “in your face” at every opportunity ... They are laughing at all of us, and we will all end our days as slaves to the state.


124 posted on 06/22/2014 3:10:06 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: goodnesswins

Not this time. The crime is far worse than the cover-up. Bob


125 posted on 06/22/2014 3:13:19 PM PDT by alstewartfan (We met on the beach amid rumors of war Your head in your hand What you saw you won't say. Al Stewart)
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To: WildHighlander57

126 posted on 06/22/2014 3:14:21 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: savedbygrace

Always remember... Lois Lerner is an attorney and held to a higher standard.


127 posted on 06/22/2014 3:16:47 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: RummyChick

Covered all the bases didn’t they


128 posted on 06/22/2014 3:41:37 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: tired&retired

Hmmm, was Lerner’s office in d.c.? Or across the Potomac?

Or would they figure the “event” happened in the state where the servers were?

And where was that?


129 posted on 06/22/2014 3:42:03 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Gaffer

agreed, if we dont get fired up, we will get fired on...


130 posted on 06/22/2014 3:49:02 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: null and void

interesting

I guess the ghost of Rosemary Woods was on call that day


131 posted on 06/22/2014 3:49:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: WildHighlander57

It’s a Federal case no matter where it happened. Remember, her previous job was with the FCC where she attacked Christian programming. Those would be excellent emails to read!!!


132 posted on 06/22/2014 3:51:16 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Nuc 1.1

I agree, but think we should strip all right of the federal
gansta to raise any funds, thats where all this crap started, states should be required to have balanced budgets, anything left over that states want to donate for federal projects should be how the fed operates>>if we dont cut them off we are toast..


133 posted on 06/22/2014 3:54:02 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: RummyChick

So, the company just deletes everything? Don’t clouds or whatever storage it is have a duty to save everything???? Sounds like that company may be in big trouble, a partner in crime assisting in a conspiracy which this IRS targeting case clearly is. It’s a real conspiracy, folks, not a coast to coast or late night talk one.


134 posted on 06/22/2014 4:16:03 PM PDT by floriduh voter (ERIC CANTOR, buh bye!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

How could a modern company depend on a hard drive for email backup? Have they never heard of servers? How could 6 key hard drives fail? Is there a hardware problem?

It just doesn’t add up. What’s more, the most incredible story in the year, outside of the disappearance of MH370 jetliner, is not being covered in the MSM.


135 posted on 06/22/2014 4:28:07 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: RummyChick

Go figure! Who’d a thunk?


136 posted on 06/22/2014 4:48:13 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: RummyChick

What a coincidence!/s


137 posted on 06/22/2014 5:31:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: aces

There are legit reasons for federal government to exist. Beyond that cutting off their funding, and their ability to borrow without supermajority state approval, along with Paul Mac Penny plan implementation will go a long way to fixing our problems. So I will defer to you and recommend a maximum federal sales rate of 7%. Please feel free to cut that rate if you like. : D


138 posted on 06/22/2014 5:47:59 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: R0CK3T

139 posted on 06/22/2014 5:53:12 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: floriduh voter

See #120 above here.


140 posted on 06/22/2014 5:56:01 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Captain Compassion

As a federal employee I know for a fact that there are digital copies on an email server somewhere. Emails go from the computer, to the email server, then to the recipient. That email server keeps copies of them. Somewhere there are copies of those emails, and Obama and his cronies are stalling until they are all destroyed.


141 posted on 06/22/2014 5:57:08 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: RummyChick
Of all the luck.

Ding, dang, gosh darn it.

142 posted on 06/22/2014 5:58:20 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: RummyChick

Help me understand something....If the IRS backed up files even for just 6 months, how is it that the files on her hard drive were not recoverable from the backup and then able to be placed on her new hard drive? Isn’t that the purpose of a back up? Or did she wait 7 months after her hard drive crashed to report it?


143 posted on 06/22/2014 6:04:45 PM PDT by Down South P.E. (Be a Berean Acts 17:11)
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To: RummyChick

OK - Enough. It’s time for the American people to not pay taxes until: Lois Lerner produces the emails or she goes to trial for destroying evidence.

The border is secure. Repeal of Dreamer Act. All the invaders are deported.

Repeal of Obamacare.

Benghazi questions are answered.

A conservative lawyer could draw up a solid document that spells it out. The government is out of control and it appears that it’s up to us to restore it.


144 posted on 06/22/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: dagogo redux
Who can file RICO charges against this administration, or parts thereof?

For years, my total understanding has been...

ANYONE.

Standing is not an issue.
The question then becomes... who or what group has the resources to file and protect themselves (physically?)

And what can the rest of us, as ordinary citizens, do to help?

145 posted on 06/22/2014 6:36:42 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: savedbygrace

“The IRS retained the legal obligation to retain paper copies of documents.”

Not sure why you think you know what no one else does....
So you work for the IRS or Sonasoft?

IF YOU PAY SOMEONE TO BACK UP YOUR DOCUMENTS WITH A CONTRACT, THEN THE OBLIGATION IS THEIRS IF THE CONTRACTS READ THUS....WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE.

Now I’m done with this subject....move on...


146 posted on 06/22/2014 6:39:03 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: WildHighlander57
Look at this way, if the other six who “lost” their emails did it on purpose in conjunction with Lerner, then isn’t that a conspiracy?
And wouldn’t a RICO lawsuit be applicable?
Racketeering In Criminal Organization indeed!

That it's a conspiracy is now beyond question.
Forget impeachment for now. The potential undiscovered evidence will be unassailable. Civil and criminal RICO charges will be the first step in cleaning the stables.

Resigning is increasingly becoming a futile alternative.
And as for "pardoning" himself and the thousands of co-conspirators, it must be made clear, now, that is not a viable option.

The most remarkable part of this sordid mess is that out of so many co-conspirators, not a single honest citizen, the key whistleblower, has emerged.

147 posted on 06/22/2014 6:49:10 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I say, confront Obama with impeachment and/or criminal prosecution and deal with the backlash as it comes

Speaking for myself, there is no backlash big enough, or nasty enough not to accept as the price of keeping our Freedom, our country and our history.

The remedy must be ruthless total and swift.

Let it come.

148 posted on 06/22/2014 6:54:28 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Eagles6
soetoro is just sticking his middle finger in America’s and the Republican’s face, saying “What are you going to do about it?”

There is famous historical line about legality --- "the Court has made it's decision, let them enforce it."

If Omugabe goes there, that will be the signal that all reasonable legal and moral options for the citizenry have been exhausted.

149 posted on 06/22/2014 6:58:00 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Chewbarkah
Isn’t it likely that a substantial portion of the most damning e-mails were never in official government accounts, but were sent on private accounts on personal smart-phones, laptops, etc.?

There are entire books written about this. It began in earnest during the first Rapist's regime, together with his woman, Co-First rapist Hillary Cankles.

150 posted on 06/22/2014 7:02:38 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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