The Bon Secours sisters (the nuns who ran the St. Mary's Home) providing death records to the Tuam registry office does not equate BURIAL RECORDS - locations of where the ALL the 796 children are buried at, nor does a memorial site mean that ALL of the 796 missing children were/are necessarily buried there.
Can the RCC provide proof that all of the 796 children are buried there? Did the Bon Secours sisters apparently keep death records, but not burial records, for the 796 children? If so, why not?
No Ad Homs...
If this is a left wing assault against Roman Catholics, how can this be so, when the majority of Catholics that voted in 2008 voted for Obama - a left winger by most people's account account here at FR?
If anything, it would be a Right Wing attack against Left-wingers.
When taking into account all of the RC’s that voted in 2008, of those that voted, most voted for Obama -— not McVain).
****BTW, was the term “fallen men” used at that time? If not, why not?****
Actually, relatively few of the children were buried at the memorial. That was some of the immediate pushback against the original article: that it was edited to sound as if 800 babies were found, when in reality, it was a much smaller amount. I would think it’d only be up to the Bon Secours sisters to bury them if no-one else would receive the bodies.
You’re rhetorically asking a question of FReeper Catholics as if we’re all at Tuam and could POSSIBLY answer. The fact that the press doesn’t provide that answer doesn’t mean anything. Can you prove to us that you’re not a Broney?
Back before the 1960’s, there was morality, now there isn’t. Indeed this is an attempt to judge past social mores with today’s loose morality. I remember in high school in the early 60’s, I think one or two girls got pregnant, and it was considered a big scandal. The girls were removed from school, and the whispers and rumors echoed throughout the school corridors about the “bad” girl who got pregnant, and everyone tsked,tsked at the thought of it.
Nowadays, anything goes. Which way was better? This is a story without merit in Ireland, but it will be blown into gigantic proportions by the press and the Irish liberals. Talking about digging in a grave for a “sensational” story. This “story” makes me sick. Let the children’s bones rest in peace.
Their deaths were recorded, and their bodies were buried. Nothing nefarious occurred other than not having marked graves, but back in those days, pregnancy out of wedlock was a taboo, and kept hushed up, included their burial site. It would not be done the same today, but it’s 54 years past the 1960’s, and many more years later than before 1960, isn’t it. Geez, nothing worse than faux indignation.
Basically, they admit that they incorrectly reported:
They also stated that the researcher they quoted, who started the whole kerfluffel, "has since clarified that without excavation and forensic analysis it is impossible to know how many sets of remains the tank contains, if any."
Further, all the reporting I've seen to date completely ignores whether or not the nuns were overwhelmed by the situation they faced, the standards of care at that time, and so many other factors that would put the story in its proper context.
Very shoddy reporting and verification of the facts.
Maybe everyone should take a deep breath and take a look at this: http://tinyurl.com/nlh3954
Can you prove you’re not a disease-ridden crack whore?
I assume you are.
Compare and contrast what is going on at the border now and this.
They were busy conducting secret meetings at the Vatican. I can't tell you any more.
I read somewhere else that the child mortality rate was around 8%, which was equivalent to the child mortality rate in Ireland at the time.
At BBC: “Child bodies: church has no records”
Archbishop Neury himself said that the church has no burial records for the 796 children.
That is what this is all about, as well as all of the vitriol directed against me and others.
This is why the mud-slinging, vicious personal attacks, name calling, and anti-Christian behavior from lapsed Catholics - grieved by their personal failure(s) and the churchs’s failure on this matter - spurs them on to act the way they do. Sad on their part...
Recommend reading:
IRELAND’S “MASS GRAVE” HYSTERIA
by Bill Donohue
President, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights
www.catholicleague.org
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3171476/posts?page=4#4