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Detroit: How the Left Made Water More Expensive Than Cell Phones
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/detroit-how-the-left-made-water-more-expensive-than-c ^ | June 24, 2014 | Arnold Ahlert

Posted on 06/24/2014 5:30:34 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: dcwusmc

yes, I totally agree with you the giving should be voluntary taxes extracted involuntarily by the government


81 posted on 06/25/2014 3:11:27 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Here are the things I think humans have a right to:

You are failing to distinguish between a "right" and an entitlement.

Something like the "right to free speech" or "right to keep and bear arms" are things that you can do which the government is not allowed to interfere with.

An entitlement, for example food or water, is something which another entity has an obligation to provide you.

We got into this current welfare mess by subscribing to the idea that "society" is under obligation to provide resources to people, without the recipients being under any obligation to offer anything in exchange.

82 posted on 06/25/2014 5:08:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: yldstrk
yeah those phones aren’t all that and a slice of bread, I work with parents in the court system and even with those phones you can’t reach them because they are out of minutes. More minutes can be bought.

And telling them to stop using up their damn minutes yakking with each other, so that they have minutes left for important stuff, is out of the question.

83 posted on 06/25/2014 5:11:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: John O
These overdue accounts are owed by people who have money(either from work or more likely from welfare) that they were supposed to use to pay for their cost of living. They refused to pay for the things they needed. Since they caused the problem by stealing the water, let them die of thirst until they pay what they owe.

That presents an idea: have the utilities have the power to directly garnish their bills from the welfare/SS account. When people cannot avoid having the money taken, then maybe having their kids playing with the hose all summer will be less attractive.

84 posted on 06/25/2014 5:14:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: yldstrk
I am talking about common decency for those who refuse to work

For those who refuse to work, my attitude is "you can work, or you can die".

85 posted on 06/25/2014 5:16:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: yldstrk; PapaBear3625

The problem with Enough food, water, housing and medical care as rights is that is that in the context of the article they must be provided by someone else. One might have a right to stroll down to the lake for a bucket of water, but not necessarily for purified water delivered to his door at someone elses expense.


86 posted on 06/25/2014 5:18:53 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: yldstrk
I am not saying you are wrong Marine, I am just saying there are children in misery because of their parents’ broken messed up lives

I have a solution: remove barriers to having sterilization performed under Medicaid. Eliminate the current waiting period (currently 30 days), and allow 18 year olds access (currently you need to be 21).

Then give a $1000 bonus, cash in hand, to any 18 year old woman on Medicaid who gets one.

Give a $300 yearly bonus to any Medicaid-covered girl, 13 or older, who gets a long-term birth control device implanted.

You think many of your clients will pass up a $300 or $1000 cash payment?

87 posted on 06/25/2014 5:31:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

OK tough guy


88 posted on 06/25/2014 5:35:23 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: gogeo
I believe you were suggesting that someone else should pay for the water they use.

I wasn't suggesting any such thing.

You selectively took words out of context and somehow put meaning to them that did not exist in my original statement.

89 posted on 06/25/2014 5:47:32 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: yldstrk
OK tough guy

Your viewpoint seems to be that everyone has an enforceable duty to give up resources, for the benefit of those who have no interest in living their lives in a way which minimizes burdens placed on others.

My viewpoint is that every person has a duty to not be a burden on others, to the extent of his or her ability (note: I say "ability" not "desire"), and where a person shows lack of desire to accomplish this duty (whether by refusing to work, or by spawning children who will likewise not have interest in working), then the rest of us have the right to impose sanctions which minimize the burden created by that person (rather than indulging that person in her irresponsibility).

90 posted on 06/25/2014 7:57:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: yldstrk

You MUST be a lawyer, as your reply was TOTALLY incomprehensible. Only lawyer-speak could do that. Please try again.


91 posted on 06/25/2014 1:56:21 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!F)
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To: yldstrk

lol! I did mess that one up. I’ll try again:

Yes, I totally agree with you, the giving should be voluntary. Taxes are extracted involuntarily by the government.


92 posted on 06/25/2014 6:37:37 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SolidRedState

Sure, as long as YOU pay for it!


93 posted on 06/25/2014 6:51:55 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SolidRedState

I wasn’t suggesting any such thing.


Yes, you did. The water is delivered at a cost. If certain consumers don’t pay the cost it must be passed on to other consumers.

You collectivists sure are generous with other people’s money!


94 posted on 06/25/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SolidRedState
Really?

Since water delivered in a pipe cannot, by definition, be "free," how else can it be "free?"

95 posted on 06/28/2014 1:25:34 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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