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To: ConservingFreedom
Wrong - the DEA's numbers showing low and declining opium addiction when it was legal constitute a 'statement against interest' and thus have credibility, unlike their self-serving misconclusions.

Conversely they could represent a mistake and/or bad data. How they would get accurate data on drug addiction in 1880 is itself a cause for speculation.

For China, we have good records because the British KEPT very good records of Opium shipments.


235 posted on 07/07/2014 11:19:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And all this opium rage represented Chinese making free choices? No pushing?


238 posted on 07/07/2014 11:22:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Wrong - the DEA's numbers showing low and declining opium addiction when it was legal constitute a 'statement against interest' and thus have credibility, unlike their self-serving misconclusions.

Conversely they could represent a mistake and/or bad data. How they would get accurate data on drug addiction in 1880 is itself a cause for speculation.

If you have better numbers on U.S. drug addiction in 1880, I'd be fascinated to see them. Absent that, the available evidence is that U.S. opium addiction was low and declining when it was legal.

For China

China is not America, and there's no evidence that America's addiction rate was ever anything remotely like China's. Addiction experts tell us that culture and environment are important factors in addiction.

241 posted on 07/07/2014 11:30:47 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Great post of actual opium shipments - about 10 million pounds sterling per year.

So with your 100 million Chinese addicts, that’s about 2 shillings a year per user.

Either that’s some cheap smack, or your number of addicts is off by a factor of say...an order of magnitude or two.

Existential crisis? Hah!


243 posted on 07/07/2014 11:33:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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