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Army wants a harder-hitting pistol
Foxnews.com ^ | July 03, 2014 | By Matthew Cox

Posted on 07/03/2014 7:51:01 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

The U.S. Army is moving forward to replace the Cold War-era M9 9mm pistol with a more powerful handgun that also meets the needs of the other services.

As the lead agent for small arms, the Army will hold an industry day July 29 to talk to gun makers about the joint, Modular Handgun System or MHS.

The MHS would replace the Army's inventory of more than 200,000 outdated M9 pistols and several thousand M11 9mm pistols with one that has greater accuracy, lethality, reliability and durability, according to Daryl Easlick, a project officer with the Army's Maneuver Center of Excellence at Fort Benning, Georgia.

"It's a total system replacement -- new gun, new ammo, new holster, everything," Easlick said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 1911; 45acp; 9mm; banglist; beretta; usarmy; usmilitary
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To: NFHale

“..I just am leery of any kind of tactical rig, Kydex or otherwise that facilitates “quick draw.”...”

I have one of those Blackhawk kydex retention holsters. It draws fast and easy and the retention is solid as a rock. I’m sold.


81 posted on 07/03/2014 8:40:59 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: lostboy61

Most cops can’t shoot. I used to shoot at the SW range in Springfield and cops would come in. Hardly any of them could hit a target right in front of them.

It was kind of scary.

Yes, I know there ARE cops that can shoot. And like most people they keep their mouths shut and let their work speak for itself.


82 posted on 07/03/2014 8:41:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: thorvaldr

Does it require you depress the trigger housing button to remove it?


83 posted on 07/03/2014 8:42:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Resolute Conservative

Last I heard, DOD said that insurgents aren’t “lawful combatants” so its OK to shoot them with expanding bullets. The Army had a special EFMJ round built with a polymer that shows up on Xrays and they’ve been using them.


84 posted on 07/03/2014 8:43:14 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: thorvaldr

Yeah, it’s definitely a preference thing... I just got “used to” mine over the years, and stuck with them.


85 posted on 07/03/2014 8:44:07 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I knew several officers who didn’t like the pistol for that reason only.

They never used it in firefight did they?


86 posted on 07/03/2014 8:44:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gaffer

I like wheelguns too. I use an Uncle Mike’s pocket holster for a SW642 that I drop in my pocket in the summer. I usually keep that with me in the glove compartment, everywhere I go. But it’s a handy little snubbie and easy to carry.


87 posted on 07/03/2014 8:46:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I’ve got US Military Colt 1911A1s, a Colt 1911, Springfields, Rock Island, Auto Ordnance, and a couple Colt commercial compacts and a Remington.

By far, by far, the best most accurate ones I have are my two Ruger SR1911s. I have still yet to put my SR1911 Commander version though a high round count test.


88 posted on 07/03/2014 8:46:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Blackhawk holster
“Does it require you depress the trigger housing button to remove it?”
It’s got a button right where your trigger finger naturally rests. Push that and it comes right out. they have models with more switches etc to stop gun grabs, but this one holds when I want it to hold and comes out when I want it to come out


89 posted on 07/03/2014 8:48:11 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: MHGinTN

Those Norincos are darn good 1911A1 copies for cheap.


90 posted on 07/03/2014 8:48:17 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: vette6387
While I can get a 9mm (or a .357 Sig) barrel for my 229, it’s a larger frame than my wife’s Sig 239 9mm.

Interesting. I would have expected SIG to use a different number designation for the different sized frame. SIG-Sauer nomenclature makes no sense to me. Is it purely arbitrary?

91 posted on 07/03/2014 8:49:22 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NFHale

I bought my wife a S&W Lady Smith in 357. If it didn’t have “Lady” inscribe on it I’d buy one....great little compact steel revolver - 5 shot.


92 posted on 07/03/2014 8:50:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: thorvaldr

Yeah....I’ve read about those. One case in particular is the guy pressed the button and his finger stayed depressed as it was drawn out and landed on the trigger.... a leg shot.


93 posted on 07/03/2014 8:52:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: US Navy Vet
People Who Shoot .45s
94 posted on 07/03/2014 8:52:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Timber Rattler

“But of course, Uncle Sam will waste millions before he figures it out...”

Uncle Sam will waste millions, and STILL not figure it out!


95 posted on 07/03/2014 8:52:45 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Gaffer

“...If it didn’t have “Lady” inscribe on it I’d buy one....”

Remember - the female is the deadlier of the species!!! Hahah!!

Smith makes rock-solid wheelguns... it’s their bread and butter.


96 posted on 07/03/2014 8:53:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Hoodat

I agree. If the military adopted 10mm, then there would be more makers and more ammo, and (maybe) prices would go down.

Everyone wins!


97 posted on 07/03/2014 8:53:57 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Gaffer
"I certainly wouldn’t expect any of my Glocks to do this. I just don’t trust the embedded steel-in-polymer rails to stand up for that long."

I used to think the same as you, but Glock has an extremely good reputation for taking incredible abuse and still work. Do an internet search for "torturetestGlock" and you'll see a torture test that should have killed any weapon, e.g. 8,000 rounds without cleaning, dropping it out of an airplane, etc... . The two hardest things I have to wrap my brain around is: 1) no owner operated safety switch and 2) it is really ugly.

I've used a pile of pistols over the years and I have to say that if I only had one pistol to carry, it would be a Glock. Also, with certain models, you can change out the caliber easily.

98 posted on 07/03/2014 8:56:55 AM PDT by fini
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To: Gaffer

“Just curious here but what is the first described meaning of the word where you found its definition. Was it described as a verb, or a noun?”

As a verb. That makes sense, since this is the conventional use, as you suggest.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contaminate


99 posted on 07/03/2014 8:58:08 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: NorthMountain

“Interesting. I would have expected SIG to use a different number designation for the different sized frame. SIG-Sauer nomenclature makes no sense to me. Is it purely arbitrary?”

Looks as though you are right. Just checked and both the 229 and the 239 can be had in all three calibers. The 239 is just a smaller frame with reduced ammo capacity. Then again, it’s the same with the Glocks, although they have different model numbers depending on the ammo, the base frames are the same size.


100 posted on 07/03/2014 8:59:19 AM PDT by vette6387
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