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The Central Question in the Abortion Debate is Still: Is This a Human Being?
Life News ^ | 7/8/14 | Ben Williamson

Posted on 07/08/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by wagglebee

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The left will do ANYTHING to avoid acknowledging that their victims are actually human beings.
1 posted on 07/08/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/08/2014 10:07:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 07/08/2014 10:07:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"No one, neither the patient receiving an abortion, nor the person doing the abortion, is ever, at anytime, unaware that they are ending a life."

quote from the late Dr. William Harrison, Los Angeles abortionist

Abortionist: One of My Patients Had Nine Abortions and There's Nothing Wrong With That

4 posted on 07/08/2014 10:11:40 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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These Godless people claim "settled science" with regard to "climate change" (sic). And yet they adamantly refuse to acknowledge authentic and true SETTLED SCIENCE with regard to the miracle of human conception, development and birth ...

Conception To Birth -- Visualized ...

5 posted on 07/08/2014 10:12:35 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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It's self-evident that they are a human being.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are CREATED EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..."

6 posted on 07/08/2014 10:14:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a 'person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."

-- Justice Harry A. Blackmun, Roe vs. Wade, 1973


7 posted on 07/08/2014 10:15:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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http://www.equalprotectionforposterity.com/


8 posted on 07/08/2014 10:15:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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The very sad fact is; I think they are very much aware that it is Human Life.
The more fundamental problem is that they do not hold it to be sacred.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 10:33:21 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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Absurd. Go to a farmer’s newly planted corn field and pluck up all of the sprouts. Then when he gets upset you can argue that it wasn’t “corn”, just “sprouts”. Ridiculous. Of course they’re human. We have to be the most wicked people in history, systematically killing our own young.


10 posted on 07/08/2014 10:36:33 AM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a 'person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment."

What Blackmun totally avoids is any opinion on what exactly the unborn child IS if not a person? Did he believe that there was doubt? Did he think that the unborn child could turn out to be, for instance, a giraffe and not a person?

Perhaps Blackmun believed that unborn children are nothing more than "clumps of cells." But, isn't EVERY PERSON just a "clump of cells" when you get right down to it?

11 posted on 07/08/2014 10:37:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Blackmun isn’t even that, anymore, as he screams in Hell where he belongs. He pushed Rowe v Wade through for the feminist agenda being pushed by the globalist who wanted America destroyed. Blackmun didn’t care if these alive unborn are human beings or not. He was god when he sentenced them to slaughter.


12 posted on 07/08/2014 10:41:08 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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And the Mona Lisa is just clumps of paint on a canvas.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 10:41:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Exodus Ch XXI refers to an unborn child as “yelodehah” literally, her child. Now, the KJV delicately translates that as “her fruit,” but the original Hebrew makes it clear that it ain’t an orange.


14 posted on 07/08/2014 10:42:14 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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Those ‘science minded’ Left will twist into pretzels to never acknowledge what this ‘Godless (L)[’tarian]’ can see as self-evident:

Human egg + human sperm != puppy (no matter what position those two met under) /s

The incubation period neither changes the outcome.

One more pox I lay upon the feet of those that have come before me; ever letting it get this far/bad before my birth.


15 posted on 07/08/2014 10:50:41 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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This is the problem. We have to remove the issue of “Life” from the argument. The central issue is really one of EQUAL RIGHTS. Granting that the pregnancy is the result of a consensual meeting of two people (Sorry we have to allow exceptions for rape and incest) and of course that the pregnancy is healthy ... the key point of interest is at what time do the RIGHTS of the two parties split and become unequal? This must become the argument.

At the moment of conception the rights of the two parties are essentially split and become unequal. The Woman maintains ALL her rights while the Man looses many of his options without consent.

The true issue of “Choice” must focus on the choice to risk pregnancy by engaging in consensual activities. If we are to consider that choice a “Right” then it comes with incumbent “DUTY” attached. Right to choose, Duty to live with the consequences.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 11:08:01 AM PDT by gtwizard
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Sorry we have to allow exceptions for rape and incest)

WHY?

Rape and incest (except in cases of murder, where there is not pregnancy) are NON-CAPITAL CRIMES. Why should the child be put to death for the crimes of his or her father?

the key point of interest is at what time do the RIGHTS of the two parties split and become unequal?

The rights of the mother and child NEVER become unequal. Both have an absolute right to life.

17 posted on 07/08/2014 11:16:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You've bought the emotional lib argument instead of seeking facts. Pregnancy from forcible rape and incest is rare. You can look it up.

The child is always innocent. Why do you believe there is ever any situation where the child should be murdered?

18 posted on 07/08/2014 11:34:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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I disagree. They know it’s a human being. That’s why they go to such great lengths to dehumanize the baby, like calling it a fetus. I don’t even like the term that the pro-lifers use of unborn. I prefer pre-born. When they argued in favor of partial birth abortion, no one can tell me that they didn’t know that there was a live, fully formed human being that was being ripped apart.


19 posted on 07/08/2014 11:35:16 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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More human than human.

human
1.
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people: human frailty.

20 posted on 07/08/2014 11:51:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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