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Ms. Pearson if Guatemala is healthcare heaven, then why are they coming here?

1 posted on 07/11/2014 1:36:12 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Perzactly.


2 posted on 07/11/2014 1:37:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DallasBiff

UNICEF = Unicorns and rainbows.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 1:38:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DallasBiff
Guatemala has universal health care. Vaccines are 100 percent funded by the government.

Sounds like a pretty damning statement on socialized health care.
4 posted on 07/11/2014 1:39:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: DallasBiff
Ms. Pearson if Guatemala is healthcare heaven, then why are they coming here?

Handouts and (for some) higher-paying jobs or any jobs.

If anyone can challenge the vaccination statistics presented in the article with verifiable data, please do.

Scabies, lice and what not do come across the border, in legal immigrants and visitors as well. BTW, scabies is considered an STD in most cases. So avoid sexual contact with these kids lol.

5 posted on 07/11/2014 1:42:52 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: DallasBiff

Guatemala...

If only the U. S. could grow up to be like it...

Gag me Pearson!


6 posted on 07/11/2014 1:43:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DallasBiff
Disease Threat From Immigrant Children Wildly Overstated

Really?!!! Why are so many quarantined? Scabies, TB, etc. Lice falling off the kids! Why can't reporters, congresscritters, et al, go see them.

7 posted on 07/11/2014 1:44:27 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: DallasBiff

Wildly overstated, huh? That’s kinda like the difference between recession. It’s a recession if I’m out of work, the economy’s fine if I’m working.

The disease threat is only “wildly overstated” for those who don’t catch a disease.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 1:47:21 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: DallasBiff

Yet another detail that really questions the reality that one side is projecting. My take is that while the health insurance is guaranteed, other issues like actual money to play with is limited in Guatemala for your salary.
Seeing some potential threat which may or may not happen to you is hard. Seeing yourself having more income in your paycheck is easier in comparison. A lot of people in Guatemala also don’t have the very electricity we take for granted, which is something worth pondering when you wonder why it’s more than healthcare to get someone into this country.


10 posted on 07/11/2014 1:48:18 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: DallasBiff
According to the United Nations Children’s Fund...

And there is where I stopped reading.

If the UN can lecture us on so many utopias, then why the hell are these people still trying desperately to get into the US?

That flipping idiot obama wants nearly 4 billion dollars to take care of the "problem"...a problem that is the direct result of his and that dysfunctional bunch of assholes at the UN.

We dump billions of dollars into the UN.

Let's make one, ONE exception, and allow the UN to come in here on our sovereign shores, gather all these kids up and let them take them back to the utopias whence they came.

FUBO and FUUN!

I am so tired of this crap!

11 posted on 07/11/2014 1:49:33 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: DallasBiff
What a bunch of BS Guatemala having universal health care as someone from developed country would understand it. My wife is from Guatemala and I have been there. As with most things in Latin American there is the law, which claims there is universal health care, with reality. My wife's uncle is a radiologist with his own clinic. He does see charity cases but if you don't have cash upfront sorry no X-ray. When my wife's grandparents had to go to the hospital they paid cash.

The system sounds ideal. “Free healthcare for all,” at least via the public arm of El Ministerio de Salud. The reality is that many, as much as 40% of the population, do not have access to healthcare. They cannot afford the perhaps 9-hour journey to the nearest doctor, neither in money for the bus nor in time away from work. The public hospitals are crowded and understaffed – patients are often turned away and asked to return another day, after they have made the trip and waited in line for hours. Communication between and even within arms is poor – a patient might leave a hospital with a new diagnosis of AIDS, which may or may not be communicated to his nearest Puesto de Salud via snail mail. Instead much of the population relies on traditional practices. Comadronas, traditional midwives, often become the medical practitioners of their communities. Most of these women do not have formal training, but rather generational knowledge passed down from mother to daughter. There are Curanderos who practice natural herbal medicine, which can work but not for everything. In very remote areas people depend on brujos (yes, this does translate to “witches”) who practice magic and cure problemas de los espíritus.

http://naranetacrossing.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/the-healthcare-system-in-guatemala/

Guatemala does attempt to vaccinate children but that might be the only exposure most of the population has to the health care system

As the World Bank puts it

Guatemala is among the worst performers in terms of health outcomes in Latin America, with one of the highest infant mortality rates, and one of the lowest life expectancies at birth. Major causes of death in Guatemala still include treatable, and communicable diseases, such as diarrhea, pneumonia, cholera, malnutrition, and tuberculosis. A significant share of Guatemalans lack access to health care services

http://econ.worldbank.org/external/default/main?pagePK=64165259&theSitePK=477894&piPK=64165421&menuPK=64166093&entityID=000094946_0302070416252

12 posted on 07/11/2014 1:51:14 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: DallasBiff

United Nations Children’s Fund

No agenda there...


13 posted on 07/11/2014 1:52:14 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: DallasBiff; freekitty; unkus; mazda77; vette6387; overbore; SouthTexas; rodguy911; ConorMacNessa; ..

If these kids are so healthy, then take them to DC and drop them off in the US Congress and at the White House. Let them rub themselves all over the politicians in DC.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 1:57:50 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: DallasBiff

A statistical argument that dismisses those impacted when their government refused to protect them and serve written LAW.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 2:00:46 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: DallasBiff

BULLSPIT!!!

Pearson needs to peddle her crap somewhere else.

We never had lice in the school until the illegals showed up. Now it is common if not rampant.

As for other diseases... she is misinformed at best but probably intentionally misleading.

That is the problem today... everybody can mouth off, including me, and print or say anything... what are you to believe?

There are a whole lot more opinions than fact flying around.


16 posted on 07/11/2014 2:07:09 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: DallasBiff

Another ignorant liberal.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 2:08:46 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: DallasBiff
Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower used to write for the Texas Observer. Need I say more?
18 posted on 07/11/2014 2:36:51 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: DallasBiff
Consider, for example, Guatemala. According to the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Guatemalan kids are more likely than Texans to be immunized for most infectious diseases. Guatemala has universal health care. Vaccines are 100 percent funded by the government.

She's right. It would be cruel to keep them here. She should go too.

19 posted on 07/11/2014 2:38:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DallasBiff

Howd’ja like to be on a domestic flight with one of these wetbacks coughing up their TB for a couple of hours??

Maybe SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU?? (Behind ya?)


20 posted on 07/11/2014 2:53:46 PM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE, mohamuud a PEDOPHILE, sharia is POISON.)
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To: DallasBiff

She has obviously never been to Guatemala. I have. They have major communicable disease problems because it is mostly a third world hellhole. Which is not meant to say that Guatemalans are bad people, they just elect socialist morons like we do and the inevitable rears it’s ugly head.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 3:48:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: DallasBiff
***And in Murrieta, California, protesters blocked buses carrying migrant children after it was revealed that some of them had been hospitalized for fevers.***

not true.

The protests at Murrieta did indeed expose that sick individuals were being transported by air, but transport of sick individuals was not the original reason for the protest that turned the buses back. We knew of the problems in Texas but I don't think it occurred to anyone at the time that the government would actually transport sick individuals by air to other states. Our focus was illegal immigration, failure to notify town administrations, airflights to San Diego instead of San Salvadore, and immigrant dumping.

MSNBC confirms the plan to abandon the bus people at the local greyhound stations:
“The preliminary screening processes can take up to four hours per person, according to National Border Patrol Council Union Representative Ron Zermeno.
“Once that screening process is complete, officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) were expected to take the women and children to bus depots in Perris, Riverside and Murrieta using unmarked vans.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diego-Border-Children-Undocumented-Immigrants-Protests-Murrieta-265531661.html#ixzz37CGTaZPs

It wasn't until -after- those buses were turned around, after a bus had to make an emergency stop at a hospital for a sick child, after arrival back at San Ysidro, that MSNBC states some 10 more passengers were hospitalized. CNN identifies them as 10 more children.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/index.html

Some 40 more individuals on those 3 buses were treated for scabies and lice. Scabies isn't something that an uninfected person would magically become covered with in the relatively short flight from Texas to San Diego. Someone might pick up a stray lice or two, on a contaminated flight, but being covered with eggs doesn't just happen in hours. These were pre-flight, pre-existing conditions. Like everyone else in the country, we were initially shocked then angered at the audacity of the administration's handling of this crisis.

Had not the buses been turned around, had not the press and public become aware of the air flights, continued transport of sick individuals by air to various states would have remained hidden from everyone, and the narrative would have remained focused only on Texas intakes. In foresight and in hindsight, the citizens of Murrieta shouldn't be condemned for turning the buses back. They should be applauded not only for standing up for their community but for indirectly averting a nationwide health crisis by exposing 'handling practices' to light of day!

23 posted on 07/11/2014 4:29:12 PM PDT by blueplum
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