What illegal immigration is costing you

Absolute Rights ^ | 7/13/2014 | Jon Dougherty

[markomalley]

As the humanitarian crisis along the U.S. southwest border continues to unfold, Americans are being fed a steady stream of propaganda by the Obama administration and a sycophantic media about how we must accept the hundreds of thousands of poor, largely uneducated and unskilled aliens crossing into our country illegally because it’s “humane,” “compassionate” and “the right thing to do.”

What is lost in the debate, of course, is that there is nothing “humane” or “compassionate” about foisting hundreds of thousands of poor, immigrant children and adults on the citizens of any nation, at  any time, but especially one that is still in the throes of the worst economic “recovery” in its history and whose own population will be so negatively affected.

At the same time President Obama and Congress do next to nothing to stem the current wave of illegal immigration, American taxpayers are being told we must subsidize the existence of each and every person who manages to run, walk or crawl across our borders. And subsidize we will: A new report from the Center for Immigration Studies lays out a grim socio-demographic picture of recent  immigration trends, both legal and illegal.

Among the findings of the report:

• In the past few months, around 290,000 illegal immigrants (mainly from the three countries mentioned above) “have been settled, or will soon be settled, by the federal government.” (Ed. note: More than 300,000 illegal immigrants have arrived this year alone).

• In 2012, 2.7 million immigrants from these three countries arrived in the U.S. – 1.3 million from El Salvador, 880,000 from Guatemala and 536,000 from Honduras.

• It is estimated that around 1.6 million of the arrivals from these countries are here illegally.

• More than two thirds of these immigrants “speak English less than very well.”

• Roughly half of the immigrants have not graduated from high school (compared to 7 percent of native-born Americans).

• The amount of households among these immigrants which “use at least one major welfare program” is more than double that of native households.

• The amount of these immigrants and their under-18 children who live in poverty is more than double that of native-born Americans and their young children. The number of natives at the poverty level is 14 percent; among Salvadorans, 28 percent; Guatemalans, 31 percent; and Hondurans, 32 percent.

• Regarding health insurance: “47 percent of Guatemalan immigrants and their young children (under 18) do not have health insurance. The figure for both Salvadoran and Honduran immigrants and their young children is 41 percent. The corresponding figure for natives and their children is 13 percent.”

• The rate of these immigrants (age 25 to 54) who are employed is roughly the same as natives – roughly 75 percent. But thousands are working in jobs that would normally have gone to American citizens.

Though we’re told by the purveyors of political correctness that immigrant qualities like bringing marketable skills to our country so that taxpayers don’t have to support them is somehow racist and cruel, you have to wonder why they have it so backwards; it is the American citizen – the working class of all socioeconomic levels – who is being victimized.

Mass migration of the world’s poorest, unskilled and uneducated is not a zero-sum game, as the crony capitalists at the Chamber of Commerce and the editors of The Wall Street Journal would have you believe. There are real costs and real consequences for the citizens of any country with poor border enforcement policies and a welfare state the size of ours.

[P.O.E.]

Well said.

[Pelham]

“What illegal immigration is costing you”

It cost Californians their State.

[Pelham]

“Unfortunately, most Republicans are complicit as well. You can count serious opposition on one or two fingers.”

Jeff Sessions is one.

I can’t think of another who is serious right now. I know I never hear a peep out of Ed Royce, my own Congressman.

[Chasaway]

Read my initial post and respond to that. Because you’re responding to some post or points I didn’t make. Or you’re purposely trying to put words in my mouth.

Most of my original post is in standard English and is easily understood and just states some facts and asks a few questions.

Why the rancor? Do you somehow think that I am pro-illegal?

What is your answer and what is your and/or your state’s contribution? I’m just talking about the way it is and asking for people to try to work with us and quit laying it all on Texas with no regard.

BTW, you do know that it is illegal for Texas to deport illegals, right? That’s a federal task and they’re releasing many directly into the US?

[Count of Monte Fisto]

BTW, you do know that it is illegal for Texas to deport illegals, right?

Its illegal for Uncle Scam NOT to deport illegal invaders and it is very clear they are just releasing them en mass into the general population all over the country. Texas should deport them anyway.

"[a] strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means." - President Thomas Jefferson

[Count of Monte Fisto]

I’m not disputing any of your facts but none of them have changed the major fact that thousands of illegal alien invaders are crossing into Texas everyday and then been shipped all over the country on the taxpayer dime. Nothing Perry has done has impeded this in the slightest. What you are doing is making excuses for his failure. And in this case, when the future of our country and our way of life is at stake, failure is unforgivable.

[Chasaway]

Uhmmm...I’m curious. Is your state deporting the illegals there? Or turning them over to the feds? Or what?

You have lots of advice and hare-brained ideas about what Texas/Texans should do.

Y’all doing any of that up there where YOU live? Maybe you ought to stick to fixing things in your own neck of the woods before getting all critical about what Texas need to be doing.

That makes sense, now doesn’t it?

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Isn’t Cruz in opposition?

I’m really disappointed in Ryan and Rubio.

[Chasaway]

One: I’m not making excuses for Perry. Re-read my original post.

Two: Yes, thousands are crossing every day. Texas has 2/3 of the border with Mexico...we’re gonna get most of them.

Three: You say “Nothing Perry has done has impeded this in the slightest”. I’d like to see you prove that. Show me what it would be like WITHOUT what Texas/Texans have done.

Four: My post wasn’t a defense. Read it objectively. It SAYS that it’s a national problem, but it’s on our border and that those who want to criticize because of the threat to our country ought to evaluate how much THEY and their state are doing/offering Texas/Texans to help.

C

[Pelham]

“Isn’t Cruz in opposition?”

I’ve had high hopes for Cruz but I’ve seen others post quotes of his that are disappointing. I wish he was as strong on the issue as Jeff Sessions.

[dragnet2]

Did you not state the border in Texas is just too big to secure and protect?

OK, I’ll go with that.

So why are you evading these question?

Why does Texas not deport illegals once they move into your cities? Would this not discourage them from coming?

Why is Dallas Parkland hospital aiding and abetting illegals who are having 1000 babies there per month? This is more than any other hospital in the U.S. What’s up with that?

Why are employers in Texas hiring millions of low wage illegal aliens?

Why did your governor attend a La Raza meeting, a racist organization, who 100% totally supports the illegal invasion of the U.S.?

Do you blame all this on the Feds?

[dragnet2]

What is your answer and what is your and/or your state’s contribution?

My state is run by socialist and Communist. Are you implying Texas is too?

[Chasaway]

No.

You are slow, maybe.

What I am saying is

Don’t

Lay it all off on

Texans

If

You’re

Not

Doing

Anything

To

Help.

Clear?

This isn’t all that hard. Why are people not getting it?

It’s elementary English and logic.

I’m not saying the border’s too big. I’m saying folks like you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

You don’t know the canyons or the deserts, etc. You give Texas sh*t when we talk about “strategic fencing”. And youdon’t have the foggiest idea about what we mean.

You want Texans to pay for all of this...the NG, the closure of the border, etc...you want Texans to deport the illegals...and then, as a conservative, you bitch at people who live on the dole. When that’s EXACTLY what you want to do...get someone else to pay for/do what you benefit from.

How do you not see that?

[dragnet2]

Because you’re responding to some post or points I didn’t make.

I am simply asking you legitimate questions based on your own comments.

You say it's too hard to secure the Mexican border with Texas? OK.

So why are you evading the questions regarding what you do with the millions after they pour in? They are coming for handouts, free medical, low wage jobs? No? So why is Texas pandering to them?

[dragnet2]

I’m SURE that they understand that the Texas/Mexico border is 1241 miles long...2.5 - 3 times as long as California, Arizona and New Mexico COMBINED.

>>I’m not saying the border’s too big.<<

I’m SURE that they understand that the Texas/Mexico border is longer that it is from New York City to Topeka, Kansas...or from Jacksonville, Florida to Midland, TX.

>>I’m not saying the border’s too big.<<

I’m SURE they’ve been there and seen the Chihuahuan Desert and understand the futility of fencing it.

>>I’m not saying the border’s too big.<<

lol...

[Chasaway]

Bullshit.

And you have comprehension issues.

I didn’t say it’s too hard. I asked what you and your state are doing to help.

As to the “millions” that are pouring in...What part of the law do you not understand?

It is illegal to refuse them care. The feds made it that way.

What would YOU, in your infinite wisdom, have happen? Want everyone to go to jail by defying the US government?

Quick question, gunslinger: Do you do that? Do you disobey the law when you disagree with it? Are you willing to go to prison over your personal principles?

If so, please provide examples.

You have wandered astray. If you read my original post, I said nothing about Perry being perfect or the impossibility of securing the border.

I spoke of exactly what you’re doing: Blaming Texas and not offering anything yourself to help solve the problem.

When...you have no idea of what’s going on down here at all.

Thanks for making my point.

[And quit acting like the progressives who continue to set up strawmen or move the goalposts. Pretend you understand plain English.]

[dragnet2]

I didn’t say it’s too hard.

You implied repeatably it was too big to secure. No?

Does this not mean it's too hard or difficult to secure?

[Chasaway]

God, you're a dumbass!

Taking things out of context makes it easier though, doesn't it?

How about the rest of it?

Know what? I’m getting a little tired of people who haven’t been here, haven’t lived here and don’t know anything but what they read/believe casting aspersions on Texans about what we SHOULD be doing, NEED to do, etc.

Before they do that, why don’t they quit their jobs and drive their cute little asses down here and do their part?

Or demonstrate how THEIR state has contributed to the protection of our NATIONAL border?

Or maybe, just maybe, act a little thankful for what Texas taxpayers ARE doing to try to stem the tide...sans Washington, DC.

Maybe that.

Perry’s not perfect. Texas isn’t perfect. But there’s no other state in the Union dealing with this issue at the magnitude we are.

How about instead of bitching, they show how they/their state is doing more than Texans are to try to stem the tide?

No? Then how about a little help?

No? Then how about a little appreciation.

No? Then, I’d appreciate it if they’d shut the hell up.

[dragnet2]

you have no idea of what’s going on down here at all.

It's no difference than CA...Once illegals enter, the states pander to them. No?

BTW, I forgot more about this issue than you ever knew.

[Chasaway]

You CAN’T be this obtuse!!!!

I’m not implying anything.

I’m saying it’s tough and I don’t see anyone paying for it...or offering to pay for it...but Texans.

NOBODY...including you.

So, do you believe that I ought to pay for stuff you want???!! You want to tell me and other Texans how we ought to act? How about you do a little research on what we’re already doing? How much we’ve already spent?

No fed help...and no help from dragnet2, either.

But you wanna continue telling us how to do it.

Or do you think you ought to contribute?

Jeez, you’re slow!