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Posted on 07/14/2014 12:30:09 PM PDT by Kaslin
How does it make sense to get something from nothing?
There is a scientific principle of cause and effect. Since we logically fit into the effect category, why could we not allow our Cause to be called God (however that term might be understood)?
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I love that! Where did it come from?
But the 'key' is whether or not we are listening, or willing to accept the answer.
Just made it up, as much as anything is ever made up.
how do you figure condescension?.
The articles point was atheist assigning less than honorable reasons to people of faith for there faith.
Guess what I agree some are just we or afraid..and some view God as a cosmic wishing well.
But some are seeking answers..seeking truth...so there is both noble in and ignoble reasons for faith.
but if you look at my post I also atheist have both noble and less then noble reasons for their beliefs on god of the lack of one.
Yet you seem be offended by the concept in any atheist mark might have less then noble reasons for their belief.0
What? Your beliefs are not to be examined and questioned the same way that others people beliefs are?......seem rather dogmatic?
News flash: most atheists, like myself, don’t go around trying to talk other people out of their faith, or belittling them for it
...maybe...but your most notable exponents, the likes of Hitchens and Dawkins, are/were excessively obnoxious in their positions, and clearly delight in tossing ridicule around...
...and this is what people see when the topic of atheism comes up...
News flash: most atheists, like myself, don’t go around trying to talk other people out of their faith, or belittling them for it.
...the above post that you are responding to, was not made by me...
He meant that God was no more real than a fiction, like a flying spaghetti monster. It's supposed to be a snarky put down of the faithful. I wonder at times how they feel after saying something like that, and I pray for them.
My experience here is that sometimes the answer is "Yes", sometimes it's "No" and other times it's "Wait."
It's not easy to discern "Wait" from "No" but it's possible. It just requires patience. All things in His time, not ours.
“I have found that they often have a very adolescent mindset, even if they are well into their 30s, 40s, and 50s. Some can be very intelligent and articulate, but speaking with them is like speaking with a bright teenager who “knows everything.” And they love mockery.”
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Yes, that is an apt description of many atheists. It is also true of many “true believers”. As for myself I would never attempt to try to prove the existence of God by reason, I regard it as being impossible, at least for me. On the other hand I can’t think of anything more hopeless than someone who thinks he can prove the NONexistence of God. I can’t prove the NONexistence of Leprechauns. The extreme difficulty of proving a negative is the reason why, in civilized nations, the burden of proof is on the accuser, I would hate to have to prove that I did NOT participate in a murder on, oh, let’s say the fourteenth of September 1967. I have absolutely no idea what I really was doing on that date, I am reasonably certain I didn’t kill anyone but how would I ever prove it. In short, anyone who claims to be certain that there is no God is so deluded as to be incapable of reason.
You might enjoy reading this, by Stefan Molyneux.
It’s also on YouTube
Against the Gods? A Concise Guide to Atheism and Agnosticism
https://freedomainradio.com/free/#atg
I plead guilty as charged.
Interesting read. That sort of line of argument is just the sort of thing that tends to get the backs of the religious up, though, so I don’t bother using them. I may be convinced that religion is false, and possibly even harmful (while conceding that it does have its benefits, too), but the faithful don’t and won’t see it that way. You can’t argue them out of their faith (and I have no particular interest in doing so), so I just don’t go down that road.
I do believe that the declared atheists of the world still have a lot more to fear from the faithful than the other way around. I’m not particularly bothered by what other people choose to believe (at least as long as they don’t use it to justify interfering with my rights, which they often do), but it seems to drive the religious crazy that there are those of us who don’t buy into their faith, and they ascribe all sorts of attributes to us to try to explain it to themselves (or intimidate us into believing with them).
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