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Thomas Ravenel: "My Skeletons are out there"
Politico ^ | July 16, 2014 | Sarah Smith

Posted on 07/16/2014 6:42:17 AM PDT by Din Maker

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To: Din Maker

Tom Ravenel is the best choice of the current candidates for Senate in South Carolina.


21 posted on 07/16/2014 7:44:35 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: bigbob

South Carolina has runoffs, and Goober got a flat-out majority.


22 posted on 07/16/2014 7:46:00 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree completely.

I think there are different types of behavior issues, and the resolution/explanation of various ones makes a difference.

We need to figure out how to address them.


23 posted on 07/16/2014 8:27:44 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I hear ya re:transparency, at least Ravenel is an open book, unlike a ghost written one like Obama’s Bill Ayers ‘work’.


24 posted on 07/16/2014 8:56:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: rlmorel

and another point to this…..being obsessed with personal shortcomings in our candidates means we throw out a lot of older, more experienced people, who have had time to make their mistakes, and learn from them. These people are generally better office holders than the young untested - who have been runinng for office since they were in middle school, and thus have managed to keep their public record pristine. Those are the folks you can’t trust.


25 posted on 07/16/2014 9:07:44 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Din Maker

“That is a “huge” voting bloc. You just wouldn’t believe.”

If you combine recreational drug users with the prescription drug users then you easily hit 70-85%. I lump them together because a very large number of prescription users are really just “legal” recreational users who in no way need 90 hydrocodon (sp) per month.

My point was that his statement was both in-eloquent, poorly worded, and rather stupid sounding.

I am not referring to the facts of the debate - just his personal messaging style. It was stupidly done.

I do not need pristine candidates - I just am sick of really stupid ones who say stupid things in a very stupid way.

Communication = Influence = politics.


26 posted on 07/16/2014 9:57:12 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“being obsessed with personal shortcomings in our candidates means we throw out a lot of older, more experienced people, who have had time to make their mistakes, and learn from them”

Depends on the “mistake.” You don’t need a psychology degree to know the truth of this statement: 95% of people will never change, never grow, and never learn.

Using a person’s life decisions as a barometer to gauge their general “goodness” is not only a great tool for choosing candidates, but also - friends.


27 posted on 07/16/2014 10:06:01 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

John Edwards made some mistakes. Do any of us believe that when he runs for office again (and he’s planning to) he will have learned anything? Advocation for treading lightly on flawed characters is contrary to wisdom.


28 posted on 07/16/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

“Pristine” candidates are a fantasy, but ones who, for example, have drug “mistakes” in their past and who see the solution as simply getting rid of the social and legal morés surrounding it aren’t actually admitting to do anything wrong - nor growing and learning.

They are simply looking to remove the obstacles that made their life more difficult in the past in hopes to alleviate themselves of stigma.

That is why “flawed” candidates remain.... flawed.


29 posted on 07/16/2014 10:07:19 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

I think you are misapplying the 95% rule…..fact of the matter remains, it is far more important how government allows you to live your life and walk out your faith than it does how elected officials live theirs and walk out theirs…and yet, many, including Freepers, are obsessed with the latter.

Each case is different, so I am generalizing….


30 posted on 07/16/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Each case is different, so I am generalizing….”

I, also, am generalizing. We probably don’t disagree on anything here.


31 posted on 07/16/2014 11:25:21 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

I understand. But, he was making a funny and I think most people probably snickered while rolling their eyes.


32 posted on 07/16/2014 2:00:11 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: TBP

Tom Ravenel is the best choice of the current candidates for Senate in South Carolina.
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No disagreement here.


33 posted on 07/16/2014 2:01:37 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: Dr. Sivana; All

I could see his approach playing in the mountain states or maybe even in New Hampshire. South Carolina? No.
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I hate to tell you this Doc, but the people in SC are no more righteous than people in other States. There are sinners, partiers, and hypocrites everywhere. I would not want to know what percentage of the good folks in SC, who will be on the church pews this Sunday, who are closet drinkers, hooked on prescription drugs or do recreational drugs, having affairs, streaming porn on the computer at 2:00 a.m........ After all, they’ve been electing a gay blade to the Senate for years.


34 posted on 07/16/2014 2:09:41 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: ruesrose

I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils but we don’t always get a candidate who makes us feel really good about values.
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Sigh.... Where is Ronnie Reagan when you need him. That’s not the job of a political candidate....to make you feel really good about values. That comes from within.


35 posted on 07/16/2014 2:14:27 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s not a choice, it’s a death sentence for our Republic.
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Your feminine side is showing. Don’t over dramatize DJ.... Hell, 13% of American doctors do cocaine. There are millions of rec drug users who are still leading productive lives. But, Ravenel does NOT do drugs anymore.


36 posted on 07/16/2014 2:18:13 PM PDT by Din Maker (Time to insure GOP will NOT get control of Senate. If you don't like revenge, you've never tasted it)
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To: bigbob
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This is the price you pay for not getting behind ONE primary challenger who could have defeated Linda.


Actually, time will show that at least 2/3 of Lindsay's challengers were paid-in-full Dark Horse candidates ...

all hand-picked by The Beauty Queen Himself.



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37 posted on 07/16/2014 4:31:13 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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