Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]
France 24/AFP ^ | 7-21-2014 | AFP

Posted on 07/21/2014 8:20:29 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Russia’s Defence Ministry dismissed accusations on Monday that pro-Russia separatists in Ukraine’s east were at fault for shooting down a Malaysia Airlines jet last week, alleging instead that Ukrainian warplanes had been flying close to the plane.

The ministry also denied accusations that Russia had supplied the separatists with SA-11 Buk anti-aircraft missile systems – which are known as “Gadfly” in NATO – or “any other weapons.”

“Russian air space control systems detected a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably an SU-25 (fighter jet), scrambling in the direction of the Malaysian Boeing,” Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev of Russia’s Air Forces told a news briefing. “The distance of the SU-25 plane from the Boeing was from 3 to 5 kilometres (2 to 3 miles).”

The ministry’s comments came as the Netherlands announced that prosecutors had opened an investigation into the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, which claimed the lives of all 298 people on board, 193 of whom were Dutch citizens

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; mh17; russia; ukraine; ukrainianrussianwar
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-249 next last
Well, this should make things "Interesting"...

RT's headline is somewhat different:

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

"The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Follow Malaysia Airlines MH17 plane crash in Ukraine LIVE UPDATES

“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it."

1 posted on 07/21/2014 8:20:29 AM PDT by tcrlaf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/


2 posted on 07/21/2014 8:20:53 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

RT is utter BS, that includes that lying psycho Max Keiser. All the Putin festishists on FR should wake up and smell the vodka. He is one more POS Russian dictator - no different from Stalin or Khruschev.


3 posted on 07/21/2014 8:24:59 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Thorne

Uhh.....
The Article is from Agencie France Press.

I can’t help but note you don’t say the same thing when someone post articles directly from EuroMadanPR, Ukrainform, KievPost, or Timchuk’s Facebook page.

Now why is that, do you suppose?


4 posted on 07/21/2014 8:27:28 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

If someone besides the Russians did it, why would they hamper the investigation?


5 posted on 07/21/2014 8:31:10 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Thorne

No different than Stalin, or Kruschev or Obama. Let’s not forget everyone.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 8:31:50 AM PDT by GilGil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy

What exactly are the Russians doing to hamper the investigation?


7 posted on 07/21/2014 8:32:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

The Russian Defense Ministry has released satellite photos of Ukrainian BUK mobile missile batteries on the outskirts of Luhansk, calls on the US to release its satellite photos of the same area.


8 posted on 07/21/2014 8:34:12 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Destroying evidence (the launcher) for starters.

Your constant defense of Putin and this massacre by his people is truly embarrassing.


9 posted on 07/21/2014 8:34:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative

“Destroying evidence (the launcher) for starters”

When did they destroy the launcher?


10 posted on 07/21/2014 8:35:10 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy

Probably because neither party trusts the other. Both sides think the other will “fix” the investigation.

Just guessing


11 posted on 07/21/2014 8:37:15 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf; vladimir998; WhiskeyX; 1rudeboy; Longbow1969

They removed it, and if you think anybody will ever see it again, then you truly are naive. Same with the personnel who operated it.

The Russians are stalling, doing everything they can to delay or obstruct the investigation.

Stop with your pro-Russian crap, we’re all sick of it.


12 posted on 07/21/2014 8:40:00 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Might be this is the one we posted about early on, where an air traffic guy saw this on his screen?


13 posted on 07/21/2014 8:41:15 AM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative

You said Russia destroyed it. I asked when...

I want to know THE TRUTH about what happened.


14 posted on 07/21/2014 8:42:35 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Thorne

ALL Media are ‘political foot-soldiers’.......have been so for a very long time now...but especially when events occur....News agencies become cannon fodder...and it spills over the airwaves.

Bottom line....there’s war in Ukraine.....so it’s to be expected all parties will twist or deny the truth, which generally lays somewhere in the middle and no one has hands without blood on them.


15 posted on 07/21/2014 8:45:03 AM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: caww

“Might be this is the one we posted about early on, where an air traffic guy saw this on his screen?”

I looked in to the “Spanish Controller” reports.
I think that was just Twitter BS...

This is Russia’s Defense Department, so it is the official position, it seems.

It would be easy to dispute if the Obama Administration releases our own Satellite and intercept info, as well as the ATC tapes.


16 posted on 07/21/2014 8:45:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Kiev-Post is under US control completely.


17 posted on 07/21/2014 8:46:01 AM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf
I want to know THE TRUTH about what happened.

Yeah, right - coming from one of the leading Putin suck-ups on FR, that would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

18 posted on 07/21/2014 8:46:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy

CNN was just now talking about this.
Are they “Putin Suckups!”, too?

This is an AFP article. Are they “Putin Suckups”, too?


19 posted on 07/21/2014 8:49:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: mac_truck
Can hardly believe any parties involved with this are making such an issue of this event. Heck the plane was traveling in a active war zone......stuff happens in war.

This plane accident has more political meaning to parties than the loss of life. Which is why the media is carrying the political messages they are...” He said she said”...is rampant!

20 posted on 07/21/2014 8:50:07 AM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-249 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson