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To: redgolum
Until I spoke with my state rep early last year, I had a neutral at best opinion of the FL legislature.

I suspect my legislature is typical of the other 56, minus CA, IL, NY(?). It is a part time gig, in session for three months. Most reps are independent business people and know very well of the heavy DC hand. My rep is a nurseryman, 1,000 acres under cultivation and 150 employees. He doesn't need the added time burden required to be a rep.

I'm saying we shouldn't equate state pubbies and democrats with their pompous, tyrannical cousins in DC.

Article V is the only peaceful means we have. Let's use it.

29 posted on 07/24/2014 11:31:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

Ok, so an Article V convention is held. All the states meet, hold a convention, and present terms.

Who is going to draw up the final document? Who is going to sit in meetings and hammer things out?

Your rep, who has a buisnees to run? Mine, who has a large farm? It will be handed to the political “class” and we will wake up with a mess.

I live in Iowa right now. With the Hawk eye Cauci, (as Rush likes to call it) we have a supposed good chance to influence the selection of a presidential candidate.

On paper at least. In actuality, it becomes managed by the Party (GOP or Dem) and the local votes don’t really matter. Only who counts and reports the votes. Last time, it was reported that Romney won by a good margin, when Santorum had. If it wasn’t for the Ron Paul supporters, that would have never been reported.

So what did the GOP do? Change the rules so you don’t get to be present at the counting. Only the party reps can.

When you have corruption like that, there is little hope for change inside the system.

The other peaceful path is what is happening. The Fedgov is so weak, they can not proejct power anymore


34 posted on 07/24/2014 11:39:52 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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