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Officer takes cover as man with concealed carry permit fires at suspect
Chicago Tribune ^ | 07/29/2014 | Carlos Sadovi

Posted on 07/29/2014 1:08:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A man with a concealed carry permit shot at an armed robbery suspect who was running from a cell phone store in Crestwood, prompting an officer who was also chasing the suspect to take cover, police said.

The man with the permit told police he was about to step inside an AT&T store at 4756 W. Cal-Sag Road around noon Saturday when he noticed the store was being robbed, Crestwood police said in a statement.

The man said he stayed outside to prevent anyone from entering, police said. After he saw the suspect leaving through a back door, he entered the store and ran out the back too, according to police.

Meanwhile, an officer had been flagged down by several people who told them the store was being robbed...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; cookcounty; firearms; guncontrol; guns; illinois; police; secondamendment; useofforce
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To: Responsibility2nd

The officer didn’t shoot because there was no dog at the scene.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 2:22:32 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Boogieman

Top 5 Rules to Remember on Concealed Carry

Started by chip , Jun 30 2014 07:13 PM

Posted 30 June 2014 - 07:13 PM

1. It’s for SELF DEFENSE, not Stuff Defense.

As much as you might want to use a firearm to stop someone from tampering with or stealing your “stuff”, the courts look very unfavorably when someone uses deadly force to protect something that can be replaced by an insurance company. Using a firearm should be a last resort, and only to protect life.

2. If you wouldn’t do it without a gun, DON’T do it with a gun.
If there are places you wouldn’t go without a gun, don’t go there with a gun. If there are people or situations you wouldn’t approach without a gun, don’t approach with a gun. Many people needlessly get into conflict because they think their gun can get them out of it. It’s not a shield of invincibility. We often see these people on the wrong end of a court case, or being posthumously honored for their bravery.

3. Shooting and drawing from a holster are DIMINISHING skills.

Many think that taking a single class or practicing once a year, are all that’s needed for defensive handgun skills. When the time comes that you need to use a firearm for self defense, it’s like the personal Super Bowl of your life. Do you think quarterbacks only practice once a year or a couple of times a year? Plan a practice regimen, even if it’s only 15 minutes of dry fire every week, or one visit to the range every month. If you have the time and interest, get involved with shooting sports (USPSA or IDPA). A firearm is an inanimate object, it requires skill to use it effectively.

4. Be AWARE of your surroundings, listen to your gut, and AVOID conflict whenever you can.

If you carry a firearm for protection, you need to be more aware of your surroundings than ever before. Allowing someone into close proximity (your personal space) can have deadly consequences if they’re able to access your firearm before you can. Listen to your gut. Throw all the PC BS out the window. If your gut tells you someone doesn’t look right, they probably aren’t. If your “spidey sense” makes your arm hair stand up, it’s time to start looking around for a way to avoid/evade, scan for additional threats, and look for cover if you can’t avoid conflict. But YOU have to be in control of the distance. Standing in the open and waiting for a perpetrator is never a good idea.

5. Concealed Carry does NOT equate to POLICE POWERS.

You have not suddenly been given the right or responsibility to enforce any law with or without your firearm (especially with). This is why they issue a license that goes in your wallet, not a badge on your shirt. As much as we’d like to make sure that we keep the peace, a concealed handgun is for personal defense of life, defense of an innocent 3rd party’s life, and defense of life in preventing a forcible felony. Drawing your gun to chase the kid out of the store so you can stop her from stealing a candy bar is not justifiable. This is not to say that you can’t intervene, but it shouldn’t be done with deadly force. Also, see rule #2.
Thanks to RandyP for this one.

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=50130


22 posted on 07/29/2014 2:26:18 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Veggie Todd

A town just a few miles away from Crestwood, IL had a dog shooting by cop.

Mother ‘Still in Shock’ After What Police Officer Did ‘Right in Front of Me and My 6-Year-Old Daughter’
Jul. 28, 2014 6:23pm Jason Howerton

A mother is outraged after a police officer in Hometown, Illinois, shot her family’s dog in the head right in front of her 6-year-old daughter on Friday. On Monday, the police chief announced that the officer involved in the shooting has been fired.

The tragic incident was set into motion after police received a 911 call from the owners of a 16-month-old German Shepherd/pit bull mix named Apollo, who said their family dog was on the loose. An officer eventually found the dog and reportedly followed it back to its home when the animal “growled and approached him in a threatening manner.”

The officer reportedly responded by pulling out his firearm and shooting the dog.

Nicole Echlin, the dog’s owner, said she was trying to get her dog inside when the officer drew his gun.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/28/mother-still-in-shock-after-what-police-officer-did-right-in-front-of-me-and-my-6-year-old-daughter/


23 posted on 07/29/2014 2:29:26 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Firepower is not going to get you out of a situation that lack of brainpower got you into.


24 posted on 07/29/2014 3:05:20 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

“Firepower is not going to get you out of a situation that lack of brainpower got you into.”

Good motto to adhere to.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 3:07:11 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Yep. Here’s the FR thread on it => http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186053/posts


26 posted on 07/29/2014 3:07:29 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 1010RD

Sure I can, just have to make sure nobody sees me.


27 posted on 07/29/2014 3:19:23 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: RedStateRocker

Stolen for my CCW course!


28 posted on 07/29/2014 3:21:50 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The guy was armed to bad he didnt get’em good. Great job. Unless we use force we arent getting the streets back.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 3:29:09 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Responsibility2nd
As a general rule, cops don't like competition.
If there is a cop at the scene, put your own gun in the holster.
They want complete control of the situation and don't like untrained and unknown civilians reacting in unpredictable ways.
Let the cop deal with the perp. It's not your job anymore.

30 posted on 07/29/2014 4:12:10 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If this citizen wasn’t beaten about the head and shoulders 50 times with a baton, then the cop wasn’t doing his job...


31 posted on 07/29/2014 4:15:29 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: H8Libs

You’re a glass half empty kind of guy?


32 posted on 07/29/2014 4:16:47 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: 1010RD

“You can’t shoot a fleeing felon?”

Only if he poses an immediate danger, i.e. to stop him from killing. otherwise you have to let him go and let the police pick him up later.


33 posted on 07/29/2014 8:03:26 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No Charges Against Man, 86, Who Fired at Robbery Suspect
The man was permitted to carry a concealed weapon in public, police said.
By Lauren Traut July 30, 2014 at 3:57 am 1

An 86-year-old “model citizen” will not be charged for firing his weapon at a robber at an AT&T store in Crestwood last week, Chicago Tribune reports.

The man, who has not been identified, holds a concealed carry permit and pulled out his weapon to shoot at a suspect fleeing from the store, 4756 W. Cal Sag Rd, on Saturday.

The suspect was not struck.

A police officer arriving on the scene had to stop chasing the suspect and duck as shots were fired, ABC7 reports.

Demetrius Merrill, 17, is being held on $1 million bond. He was arrested after a search of a wooded area next to the Cal Sag Channel.

http://patch.com/illinois/tinley-park/no-charges-against-man-86-who-fired-robbery-suspect


34 posted on 07/30/2014 7:34:29 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks KL for this update.

86 years old? Won’t faces charges? I’m wondering who the senile old fool is here> The old geezer recklessly firing a weapon of the prosecutor who OK’d that.


35 posted on 07/30/2014 7:52:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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