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Police Chokehold Killed Eric Garner, Medical Examiner Rules
WABC-TV NYC ^ | August 01, 2014 | Josh Einiger

Posted on 08/01/2014 9:43:30 PM PDT by bamahead

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To: cherry

That is probably what gets me most about the case. The cops didn’t need to be in a hurry to arrest the guy. He was a low level and nonviolent criminal who was not a danger to anybody. They could have taken their sweet time building a case, if there was a case to be built, and they could have arrested him at their leisure.


41 posted on 08/01/2014 10:59:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Moonman62

You can see another video from the store facing out where Mr. Garner gets absolutely zero help from the paramedics once his condition spirals down. They basically have him handcuffed while he dies in front of them without any medical assistance.


42 posted on 08/01/2014 11:01:37 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

How can you tell he died at that point?


43 posted on 08/01/2014 11:03:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: bamahead

Watch the TV show “Cops”...
Cops do act unnecessarily brutal when the offender resists.


44 posted on 08/01/2014 11:09:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: Moonman62
I didn't say he was dead at that point. But, handcuffing someone behind their back and putting them on their side is bad for anyone. You can see on this video the lack of concern for him once he is subdued.
45 posted on 08/01/2014 11:09:14 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: bamahead

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time

/bootlicker


46 posted on 08/01/2014 11:23:03 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: bamahead

The choke hold was applied first thing by the gung-ho cop. Eric Garner was completely taken by suprise as the cop sneaked up upon him from behind. Then he threw Eric Garner down on the ground, still holding him by the neck. Garner was in such pain that he was using his hands to stop the pain. Of course, that caused him to keep from putting his hands together for the handcuffs. The longer that happened, the longer the damage to his neck and throat. The action quickly shut down his respiratory system. Being such a large man, that shock to his system was fatal.

It is time police departments learn how to deal with the public. In this video, I saw only tight lipped cops standing around him; waiting for back-up to arrive. The back-up attacked the surprised victim like pack animals.

This was murder and, if I were on the jury pool, I would convict the cop who applied the choke hold and all of the pack animals in the attack.


47 posted on 08/01/2014 11:24:55 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: gaijin

This one really ticked me off.


48 posted on 08/01/2014 11:26:39 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Theoria

Thanks for the link. During the first couple of minutes, he appears to be conscious (he is holding his head off the ground) and as you said he is on his side. I also see the officer checking his pulse a couple of times. At 2:56 he appears to be breathing but unconscious. When the female EMT shows up she checks for a pulse. Before they put him on a stretcher she checks to see if he’s breathing by placing her hand on his abdomen. The guy taking the video asks why they aren’t doing CPR and an officer says he’s breathing as Garner is taken away on a stretcher.

I don’t get how the ME can say his prone position caused his death when he’s clearly on his side here and definitely still alive for the first couple of minutes.


49 posted on 08/01/2014 11:33:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: bamahead
Frankly, this was cold-blooded murder.

Hopefully, the officers will be hung after a speedy trial.

50 posted on 08/01/2014 11:33:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Ken H
They left him in handcuffs the entire time on the video. His hands were still cuffed when they put him on the stretcher.

I reviewed the video a few times and it looks like they had had him uncuffed by the time the medic arrived.

51 posted on 08/01/2014 11:34:03 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: bamahead
The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Eric Garner died from a chokehold excessive taxes on cigarettes that encourage the sale of black market cigarettes on the street.

There fixed it.

52 posted on 08/01/2014 11:34:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

If he hadn’t been dog-piled on by 4 or 5 grown men, compressing his chest as he told them that he could not breath, he may be alive today.


53 posted on 08/02/2014 12:05:19 AM PDT by Gigantor (The Fundamentally Transformed States of America)
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To: Theoria

“It is actually hard to kill someone with a choke. You can cause them to pass out very quickly and such. But, to kill someone requires cutting off the blood supply and oxygen to the brain for several minutes.”

Did you see the part of the autopsy that said chest compression? That would be 4 or 5 adult males dog-piling on him, killing him, exactly as you describe.


54 posted on 08/02/2014 12:07:19 AM PDT by Gigantor (The Fundamentally Transformed States of America)
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To: Greysard

part of the problem is ex-military have become cops and this is the compliance behavior they do.


55 posted on 08/02/2014 12:16:01 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ken H
Do you suppose that they removed the cuffs because he had become unconscious? Besides, it was NYPD policy not to use the choke hold or use such tactics "such as sitting or standing on a subject's chest, which may result in chest compression, thereby reducing the subject's ability to breathe.":


56 posted on 08/02/2014 12:18:06 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: bamahead

Apparently the “authorities” take that selling of cigarettes offense seriously up there. The “heroes” didn’t have the option of simply issuing a citation? It’s really an arrestable offense up there?

Whoever it was who strangled Garner needs to be charged with manslaughter.


57 posted on 08/02/2014 2:21:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: ConservativeMind

“Hopefully, the officers will be hung after a speedy trial.”

But they won’t be. They’re “heroes,” don’tcha know?


58 posted on 08/02/2014 2:24:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Cap'n Crunch
To: Balding_Eagle

What I said was, and I’ll say it again, the guy did not die from strangulation or the choke hold. He died from a heart attack. Maybe the police should just stop making arrests on anybody who offers resistance in case they may have a heart attack.

Cops have died from heart attacks making arrests.

What I find interesting is that so many “Freepers,” “Conservative” “don’t believe the media” people parrot what a liberal, cop hating, pro socialist reporter prints in the liberal press.

They also accuse our soldiers of being murderers and baby killers, I suppose you believe that as well.

75 posted on Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:34:30 AM by Cap'n Crunch

59 posted on 08/02/2014 4:15:57 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Theoria
The restraining choke was loosely applied and the duration and was negligible to cause such a death.

I guess it was just bad timing the guy chose that very moment to die. The chokehold and the cop standing on his chest was pure coincidence.

60 posted on 08/02/2014 4:31:50 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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