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1 posted on 08/01/2014 9:43:30 PM PDT by bamahead
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2 posted on 08/01/2014 9:44:49 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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3 posted on 08/01/2014 9:45:54 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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No one even tried to give him mouth-to-mouth or chest compressions as he lay on the sidewalk, dying.

The cop callously smiled and flippantly WAVED to camera-holding by standards, the better to show concerns had left him unfazed.

I believe he was a father of four children and the police were on-scene because he had broken up a fight.

Being LARGE should not draw a death-sentence.


4 posted on 08/01/2014 9:48:32 PM PDT by gaijin
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Awaiting the badgelickers to declare it was a justifiable homicide...


5 posted on 08/01/2014 9:50:18 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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I'm upset with the police actions. And I also disagree with the findings as of now from the ME. I will look at the report when it comes out. His health was a large factor and having the police stand on him was obviously lethal.

The restraining choke was loosely applied and the duration and was negligible to cause such a death. Unless it crushed his throat, which it didn't from a cursory view.

Part of the cause of death would be the lack of first aid applied to the citizen. That is what really finished him off.

6 posted on 08/01/2014 9:53:08 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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7 posted on 08/01/2014 9:53:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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after viewing the video, what I can't believe is WHY so much force for a not murder not rape not kidnapping not bombing not carjacking incident...

this is the problem with the cops and all their afiliated alphabet soup groups.....they go after the stupidiest little things just to show what big men they are and this is what happens...

whatever happened to DISCRETION?...what ever happened to the law being instructive?

we had a local guy with low intelligence taken down after the wuzzy cops thought he was holding a threatening object....an empty 2L bottle of cola...he died from his treatment but thankfully after years of obstruction by the cops, the dead man had his day in court and at least one cop has in ass in prison...

10 posted on 08/01/2014 9:58:39 PM PDT by cherry
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selling untaxed, loose cigarettes last month,

Clearly a capital offense -

12 posted on 08/01/2014 10:00:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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Thought ya might be interested in this.


14 posted on 08/01/2014 10:00:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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So it was a chokehold after all, and not a heart attack as some FReepers confidently proclaimed.


15 posted on 08/01/2014 10:01:10 PM PDT by Ken H
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Isn’t that the purpose of a chokehold?


16 posted on 08/01/2014 10:05:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Speaking of some attempting to defend killing this guy...

This above was quite an interesting thread. Also interesting it was put into chat.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 10:06:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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...........well, looking at the situation from down here in Texas and not having all that much information it’s plain to see that what little is out there does not look good for the City of New York and one or two of those cops, nor should it, as the cops appear to have violated some of their own restraint policies. That said, what were they to do, just walk away?!

On the other hand, the victim, clearly resisted arrest and he had the kind of health problems that could have contributed to or outright caused his death. It does not appear arguable that had he not resisted arrest he would be alive today.

I’d say it is going to come down to what “community” the case is tried in. If it is tried in say Harlem. New York is bankrupt and the cops are in deep you know what cuz we al know what black juries can do in a high profile case like this.


20 posted on 08/01/2014 10:10:21 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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Yeah?

Well amazingly, those plicks didn’t find any untaxed cigarettes on his corpse.

Bitches.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 10:41:13 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Watch the TV show “Cops”...
Cops do act unnecessarily brutal when the offender resists.


44 posted on 08/01/2014 11:09:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time

/bootlicker


46 posted on 08/01/2014 11:23:03 PM PDT by varyouga
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The choke hold was applied first thing by the gung-ho cop. Eric Garner was completely taken by suprise as the cop sneaked up upon him from behind. Then he threw Eric Garner down on the ground, still holding him by the neck. Garner was in such pain that he was using his hands to stop the pain. Of course, that caused him to keep from putting his hands together for the handcuffs. The longer that happened, the longer the damage to his neck and throat. The action quickly shut down his respiratory system. Being such a large man, that shock to his system was fatal.

It is time police departments learn how to deal with the public. In this video, I saw only tight lipped cops standing around him; waiting for back-up to arrive. The back-up attacked the surprised victim like pack animals.

This was murder and, if I were on the jury pool, I would convict the cop who applied the choke hold and all of the pack animals in the attack.


47 posted on 08/01/2014 11:24:55 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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Frankly, this was cold-blooded murder.

Hopefully, the officers will be hung after a speedy trial.

50 posted on 08/01/2014 11:33:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Eric Garner died from a chokehold excessive taxes on cigarettes that encourage the sale of black market cigarettes on the street.

There fixed it.

52 posted on 08/01/2014 11:34:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Apparently the “authorities” take that selling of cigarettes offense seriously up there. The “heroes” didn’t have the option of simply issuing a citation? It’s really an arrestable offense up there?

Whoever it was who strangled Garner needs to be charged with manslaughter.


57 posted on 08/02/2014 2:21:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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