But he said the issue was a difficult one because people today are less likely to think and talk about death thanks to advancements in modern medicine, which mean that people are living longer.
Society these days is much less familiar with death, he said, adding: Our great-grandparents and to some extent our grandparents grew up with people dying before the days of antibiotics.'
This ghoul is trying to say that even antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low.
1 posted on
08/08/2014 6:35:01 AM PDT by
wagglebee
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2 posted on
08/08/2014 6:36:15 AM PDT by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on
08/08/2014 6:36:47 AM PDT by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on
08/08/2014 6:38:36 AM PDT by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
“If they be like to die, they had better do it and decrease the surplus population.” - Ebenezer Scrooge
6 posted on
08/08/2014 6:41:43 AM PDT by
NRA1995
(I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
To: wagglebee
So.....is he going to put us out on the ice to die like Eskimos? ;-)
7 posted on
08/08/2014 6:42:17 AM PDT by
spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
(Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
To: wagglebee
So, Dr. James Beattie, how old are You?
8 posted on
08/08/2014 6:45:42 AM PDT by
C210N
(When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
To: wagglebee
First, dying isn’t an ‘act’; and second isn’t the moral thing to do to take each person’s case on its own merits?
9 posted on
08/08/2014 6:48:02 AM PDT by
skeeter
To: wagglebee
14 posted on
08/08/2014 6:54:48 AM PDT by
dfwgator
To: wagglebee
I have a friend who is English and lives in London. He said that it is a well-known fact that if you are sick and have no advocate speaking for you and you are very sick, chances are you will be shuttled to a far corner of the hospital and left to die without food, water or pain medication.
And he said it happens all the time. So, anyone who wants to live makes sure they either get someone who can yell at the doctor and the nurses for them when they can't or they work to get private care.
15 posted on
08/08/2014 6:58:17 AM PDT by
Slyfox
(Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
To: wagglebee
antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low. ....and people mocked Sarah Palin when she was prescient enough to see this coming.....
16 posted on
08/08/2014 7:02:52 AM PDT by
wbill
To: wagglebee
This ghoul is trying to say that even antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low. No, he's very clearly not. Read it again.
18 posted on
08/08/2014 7:07:05 AM PDT by
Straight Vermonter
(Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
19 posted on
08/08/2014 7:07:23 AM PDT by
DJ MacWoW
(The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
To: wagglebee
When my Dutch friends mother was sick and elderly in Holland, her doctor refused to treat her. My friend went over there and took her to Germany for treatment but it was too late she died on the way.
European medicine, BARF!
20 posted on
08/08/2014 7:07:30 AM PDT by
Ditter
To: wagglebee
The Roman Empire satirist Juvenal in Satire VI, lines 3478, wrote about the dangers of guardians making expedient decisions when society is only asking them to guard! Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? translates out to "Who will guard the guards themselves?" and is a haunting warning here. With national healthcare (British NHS and now Obamacare here), medical care, especially in hospitals, is a limited resource and it is the nameless, faceless bureaucrat that asks "Is this the best use of that hospital bed?" The claim is that there are no "Death Panels", the reality is that there are no panels with that name!
21 posted on
08/08/2014 7:08:01 AM PDT by
SES1066
(Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
To: wagglebee
I know of a case where an older woman was in her 60’s she had her goiter removed. She was old country and objected saying that she was old and wouldn’t live long anyway, but had it done.
They discovered it was growing down towards her heart and was just a short distance away. It would have killed her when it hit her heart.
She lived another 30 years.
23 posted on
08/08/2014 7:11:31 AM PDT by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: wagglebee
Can’t wait till this subhuman gets to be 80. I hope God is just in his lifetime as opposed to when he goes to hell.
To: wagglebee
When you take the governments money you get government quality care.
28 posted on
08/08/2014 7:16:01 AM PDT by
AU72
To: wagglebee
Coming soon to America
To: wagglebee
You shouldn’t ignore what the doctor actually said. “If a person is in hospital, particularly an elderly person with multiple co-morbidities, if they have a cardiac arrest its a sign they are in decline, he told Radio 4.
Having been in the hospital 3 seperate weeks over the past year and having people in the same room suffering and unable to do anything for themselves i can tell you that they may be alive but they’re surely not living. They’re beating hearts with a bunch of needles stuck in their bodies. This in NOT the same as denying Schiavo nutrients. This isn’t about starving someone to death which i am bitterly opposed to. He’s speaking of people who are literally dying and being brought back from the dead to just lay there and suffer for some longer period of time.
I understand where you’re coming from but the doctor didn’t say don’t try and save otherwise healthy people.
31 posted on
08/08/2014 7:21:18 AM PDT by
wiggen
(The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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32 posted on
08/08/2014 7:23:25 AM PDT by
tang-soo
(Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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