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Tea Party’s horrifying cousin: Here comes “constitutional conservatism”
salon.com ^ | 8/11/14 | Heather Digby Parton

Posted on 08/11/2014 6:11:41 AM PDT by cotton1706

The emerging conventional wisdom that the Tea Party is being vanquished by the GOP establishment, based solely on the fact they are beating primary challengers, is exceedingly myopic. If you believe that, you have a very superficial view of what constitutes “winning.” These primaries are forcing the allegedly mainstream candidates to move far to the right and the performance of the past few years proves that when this happens the Party stays far right as a result of this threat. Primaries can be very effective tools if used properly — and if they are backed up by money and influence, which the far right certainly is, they are formidable instruments of discipline.

Ed Kilgore did an excellent survey of these so-called victories for the voices of reason at Talking Points Memo earlier this week:

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The right is organized, both philosophically and institutionally as an enemy of New Deal liberalism.

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Right now there is little reason for the Republicans to stop doing what they’re doing. They are getting much of their agenda enacted simply by doing nothing. (In fact doing nothing is their agenda.) But that doesn’t mean there aren’t some new twists to their old story.

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I do worry that the still-emerging ideology of “constitutional conservatism” is something new and dangerous, at least in its growing respectability. It’s always been there in the background, among the Birchers and in the Christian Right, and as as emotional and intellectual force within Movement Conservatism. It basically holds that a governing model of strictly limited (domestic) government that is at the same time devoted to the preservation of “traditional culture” is the only legitimate governing model for this country, now and forever, via the divinely inspired agency of the Founders.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; constitution; constitutional; elections; salon; teaparty
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To: rollo tomasi
And you were **expecting** just what else, exactly?

;^)

21 posted on 08/11/2014 6:41:49 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: cotton1706
"...is the only legitimate governing model for this country, now and forever, via the divinely inspired agency of the Founders."

At least as legitimate as the agency of Marx, Vladimir Illyich and their "horrifying cousins" in the Nazi-like American Progressive Movement.

22 posted on 08/11/2014 6:42:35 AM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: circlecity
Actually, the article is fairly calm and reasoned...

Nothing from Salon is calm and reasoned.

And who is this broad?

Dolly's cousin?

She should go back to warbling bad C & W crap.

23 posted on 08/11/2014 6:43:30 AM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: Lazamataz

The author was taught in an academic vacuum who devolved into either a coward or just a lemming that has ignored critical thinking and historical context.

A nation of men (Females included btw if author lurks, don’t expect her to grasp the context anyway) rather than laws have a nifty way of establishing destructive unintentional consequences which this author seems oblivious to.


24 posted on 08/11/2014 6:44:17 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: cotton1706

Modern liberalism will eventually lead to some form of communism/dictatorship. And then moron “journalists” like Heather will be surprised to find themselves working the fields or even lined up against a wall.


25 posted on 08/11/2014 6:44:18 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: cotton1706
This is actually an absurd article that sounds like it's written by some that escaped from an asylum.

Our government is founded on the constitution and without it there isn't a legitimate government. A Constitutional Conservative is someone that want to preserve the constitution meaning someone that wants to preserve the USA. Anyone against Constitutional supremacy is really saying they want to overthrow the government. The most "right wing extremist" (the Right/Left dichotomy is almost inapplicable to current politics) loon is still an American that believes in American principles, while your hip "moderate" college student wearing a Ernesto "Che" Guevara tee-shirt, sipping a $10 the fair trade macchiato, is really the extremist advocating the overthrow of government.

26 posted on 08/11/2014 6:44:58 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: cotton1706

Interesting that they think we are going to get Constitutional conservatism. Not with this SCOTUS. They’ve proven that time and again.


27 posted on 08/11/2014 6:48:15 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: cotton1706
So "Doing Nothing" is our agenda. Actually, I agree with that.

Here is why.

How many laws do we really need? What we need to do is get rid of much of what we already have. I'm in favor of sticking to our agenda. We could start with putting Obamacare into the trashcan of history.


28 posted on 08/11/2014 6:51:37 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: cotton1706
that the still-emerging ideology of “constitutional conservatism” is something new and dangerous

Whattaya know? Salon got it half right! It IS dangerous, but only to the people who worship at the alter of the State. The 'new' part just shows their basic stupidity.

29 posted on 08/11/2014 6:53:09 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: cotton1706
"tea party" for awhile got hijacked by those who wanted lower taxes and NOTHING ELSE of the constitutional conservative initiatives. They're the ones bought and paid for by the Chamber of Commerce, banking interests, and the global elite. They got the support of other anti big gov types when the issue was stopping Obama from raising taxes. And now we get articles like this when we want our issues addressed?

I'll no longer trust any "conservative" who doesn't distance himself/herself from the Chamber of Commerce. Also, they have to show actions....not just words....that they're disgusted with the invasion of the US.

I'd wager constitutional conservatives could win a majority of US citizens if we distanced ourselves from the Chamber of Commerce and instead had making it easier to start and grow individual and small businesses as a priority.

30 posted on 08/11/2014 6:54:43 AM PDT by grania
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To: cotton1706

These new, young commie libs sure do have a lot of problems with that pesky U.S. Constitution and its OTHER cousin, THE BILL OF RIGHTS!


31 posted on 08/11/2014 7:04:14 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: cotton1706

Adult children, who love dope, queerness and blue ribbons for showing up, calling Daddy an a**hole, yet again.

Same old song.


32 posted on 08/11/2014 7:12:52 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough.)
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To: rollo tomasi

I left her a little dogpile on her article.


33 posted on 08/11/2014 7:12:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: cotton1706

The domestic marxists are all corrupt socialist crooks

Investigate, Indict, and Imprison all members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus


34 posted on 08/11/2014 7:17:03 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: cotton1706

Give these trendy Libs a test. Put them in a locked room and give them a 100 question quiz on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Freedom if they get the answers right and punishment if they get them wrong. Since they ‘are against it’, let’s find out what they think it is they are against.


35 posted on 08/11/2014 7:17:12 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: cotton1706

Bm


36 posted on 08/11/2014 7:18:38 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cotton1706
If you disagree with any of the points made in this article, you can submit your complaints to Salon's executive offices, which are located here:


37 posted on 08/11/2014 7:29:57 AM PDT by Maceman (The future must not belong to those who glorify the "prophet" Mohammed.)
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To: IronJack
I love this! We’re supposed to quake in our shoes over the prospect of an ideology that respects the visions of our Founders, but we’re also encouraged to embrace movements that have resulted in mass murder, starvation, and oppression wherever they’ve been tried in the last 150 years.

It is sobering to think about how many lives would have been spared in the last 100 years had there been no Progressive leftists, Muslims or atheists in the world.

38 posted on 08/11/2014 7:37:23 AM PDT by Maceman (The future must not belong to those who glorify the "prophet" Mohammed.)
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To: cotton1706
This nonsense only follows the Administration's notion that conservatives are the greatest threat to the nation, as posited in the Friedman interview.

How sad that an American President has such total lack of understanding of what the Author of America's very Declaration of Independence from overreaching government, and himself President of the U. S., Thomas Jefferson, in his own 1801 Inaugural Address--considered to be the very "qualifications" for the American presidency:
(Excerpt, "Our Ageless Constitution," p. xiv, reformatted)
"Let us, then, with courage and confidence pursue our own Federal and Republican principles, our attachment to union and representative government. Kindly separated by nature and a wide ocean from the exterminating havoc of one quarter of the globe; too high-minded to endure the degradations of the others; possessing a chosen country, with room enough for our descendants to the thousandth and thousandth generation;

- entertaining a due sense of our equal right to the use of our own faculties, to the acquisitions of our own industry, to honor and confidence from our fellow-citizens, resulting not from birth, but from our actions and their sense of them;

- enlightened by a benign religion, professed, indeed, and practiced in various forms, yet all of them inculcating honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man;

- acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence, which by all its dispensations proves that it delights in the happiness of man here and his greater happiness hereafter

—with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people?

- Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.

- This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.

"About to enter, fellow-citizens, on the exercise of duties which comprehend everything dear and valuable to you,

- it is proper you should understand what I deem the essential principles of our Government, and consequently those which ought to shape its Administration. I will compress them within the narrowest compass they will bear, stating the general principle, but not all its limitations.

- Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political;

- peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none;

- the support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against antirepublican tendencies;

- the preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad;

- a jealous care of the right of election by the people—a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided;

- absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism;

- a well disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them;

- the supremacy of the civil over the military authority;

- economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened;

- the honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith;

- encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid;

- the diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason;

- freedom of religion; freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected.

These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

What America needs now is a person of wisdom and understanding of the essential ideas of liberty to lead us to "retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety"?

“Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence…let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.” (Abraham Lincoln)

39 posted on 08/11/2014 7:40:46 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Dr. Sivana

I love the way this guy correctly outlines the structure and agenda of the constitutional conservatives and then paints it as wrong. LOL!


40 posted on 08/11/2014 7:48:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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