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Evidence Mounting That Turkey Is Behind ISIS Recruitment to Establish an Islamic Caliphate
Shoebat.com ^ | August 13, 2014 | Walid Shoebat

Posted on 08/13/2014 12:39:36 PM PDT by Rashputin

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To: Kackikat
Oh, well, the king from a royal family installed by the British when they wrested what's now Saudia Arabia from the Ottoman Empire.

Yes, at the moment, that's the case.

21 posted on 08/13/2014 1:18:31 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: All

I can confirm that approximately 10% of ISIS operatives are Turkish nationals, as well as another 2-4% that are ethnic Turks with EU passports.

The good news is that ISIS is about to be crushed. Their recent success is illusory, due to corruption within the Iraqi army and collusion by Iraqi Sunni militias. A combination of US airstrikes and other means, plus local forces are about to hand ISIS it’s ass.

Count on it.

I should also add that it’s core members are Saudi. Not Baghdadi himself but those around him. KSA and the other gulf monarchies provide the money, weapons and much of the manpower for these cannibal thugs.


22 posted on 08/13/2014 1:23:30 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: DoughtyOne

ypu should read Walid Shoebat’s book God’s War on Terror. He lays out a pretty clear case against Turkey.


23 posted on 08/13/2014 1:24:29 PM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: dfwgator

The Ottomans were not islamists. Erdogan is.


24 posted on 08/13/2014 1:25:50 PM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: Rashputin
I have long favored restoration of the Sultan and his enthronement as Caliph, for 3 reasons:

1) The Turk has a proven track record of sorting out Arabs.

2) The recent assignment of Mecca and Medina to the Saudi royals has elevated their importance far out of proportion to their actual nature.

3) The coordinates of the Topkapi Palace are well known (41°00'46.8"N 28°59'02.4"E) and can thus be entered easily into Minuteman and Trident targeting systems.

25 posted on 08/13/2014 1:29:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Rashputin

It all needs to be turned to glass and 90% of the worlds problems will go away


26 posted on 08/13/2014 1:31:23 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Rashputin

BTTT


27 posted on 08/13/2014 1:35:04 PM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Gunpowder green

Just to show a sample of who these b%st@#ds are, here is a clip from Vice News. This is where the disgusting quote about the ISIS flag flying over DC came from:

https://news.vice.com/video/the-islamic-state-part-2

My assessment is that their press officer is definitely Saudi, and most of those that spoke were Saudis, other Khaleejis, or Yemeni. The asshat from Belgium with the kid was Maghrebi, likely Algerian or Moroccan. I also heard Iraqi accents, an Egyptian, and one Syrian. I saw one caucasian that didn’t speak, he didn’t look Chechen, he looked western. The guy in the pashto get-up was Saudi also.

ISIS was born and bred in the KSA.


28 posted on 08/13/2014 1:35:05 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: Kackikat
Oh, but "Arab Spring" in Libya was a good cause, overthrowing a dictator, right?

That very shortly before "Arab Spring" Quack Daffy told the EU to stuffit and wouldn't do the sort of oil deal they wanted was only a coincidence. It's a real shame they're impaling people now instead of just beheading them, but Caliph Obama was trying to save the people there from an evil dictator.

Like the EU oil deal, the fact that Caliph Obama made sure a large swath of his native Africa has fallen into the absolute Satanic savagery typical of "good and dedicated Muslims" is mere coincidence.

Once the Christians are slaughtered and driven out, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth over how someone needs to restore order to North Africa and the Middle East.

But, thank goodness, the West has an Ace in the Hole. Who better to restore order than trusty NATO member Turkey who would send Muslim troops to deal with Muslims. Far better than sending "Crusaders", no?

29 posted on 08/13/2014 1:36:46 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Jim Noble

Bravo! I agree completely. The next wild card in this bizarre game is Iran.


30 posted on 08/13/2014 1:37:30 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: pgkdan

I’m not particularly a big fan of Turkey. It’s dealings with the internationally recognized Israeli blockade is very problematic for me. I may in time be swung around on Turkey complicity with ISIS.

I will tell you, that all sorts of reports come out all the time. It’s hard to know who to trust and who not to. Perhaps this guy has done good work in the past.

Is that influencing his thoughts now? Is Turkey complicit, or is this guy simply sure Turkey will play in at some point, and jumping the gun now? It’s hard for me to determine that from here.


31 posted on 08/13/2014 1:37:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Like you others also take the author with a grain of salt until further evidence comes into play...Shoebat is interesting to say the least, but he is also sometimes off the mark. And he's not the only one attempting to assess the situation....who misses the mark...which is far more complicated and diverse than we realize or have facts about. Turkey's position in the ME totters IMO as do many of the nations do over there. I don't think they themselves always know what they're doing because things on the ground shift, and that sometimes rapidly.
32 posted on 08/13/2014 1:44:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: pgkdan
The Ottomans were not islamists

Tell that to the folks in Constantinople.

33 posted on 08/13/2014 1:45:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 12th_Monkey

....”all needs to be turned to glass and 90% of the worlds problems will go away”.....

I suspect the Muslim nations think the same of the rest of the world they attempt to conquer one way or another.

Thus that WAR will in the end take place.


34 posted on 08/13/2014 1:47:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yes, you touch on issues that need to be considered. It’s one aspect of the issue of supporting anti-Regime elements in Libya, Egypt, and Syria. You never know who is the driving force. Sometimes you wind up with worse than you started with.

The Syria/al Qaeda/ISIS and or ISIL dynamic is a great example.


35 posted on 08/13/2014 1:51:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Rashputin

I think I may have posted here that althogh M K was a disaster, he was our disaster and should not be ousted at that time from Libya...not sure how I said it. I felt bad about the Arab Spring, it was Zero s wading into the Middle East in a subversive way, and now this.

Turkey’s Ergoden or whatever his name is... was a close friend of Obama s, but they have cooled the phone calls now....plot or divided opinions?, I don’t know. Turkey is one of the least trustworthy countries....and Zero and ‘Erg’ make me think of many scriptures.

I agree with you about Constantinople and the seven hills.... We try to interpret scripture through our society norms and not through the eyes of God.

Enjoy your comments.


36 posted on 08/13/2014 1:51:56 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: caww
I hear what you're saying and in general agree although in this case I'm giving this more weight because it backs up what the Kurds have been saying about Turkey for quite a while.

The Paks claim to have proof in the form of voice recordings and photographs (I don't remember of what, Turks with ISIS people in Pakistan IIRC) that Turkey is indeed supporting and recruiting for ISIS. After a year of reports from multiple sources other than the Kurds, I think there's fire as well as smoke.

Regards

37 posted on 08/13/2014 1:58:33 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Kackikat
When I was about nine years old I was fascinated by the fact that Constantinople was built on seven hills, the tops of the hills chopped off, and supports across the valleys were put in place so the hilltops and the new land on supports was all level ground.

The valleys that were covered over were then used as huge cisterns to hold water in a way there was very little evaporation and the water stayed cool. I was amazed at how people back then could accomplish that sort of engineering projects.

I also never forgot the fact that Constantinople was built on seven hills while Rome was built around seven hills.

Regards.

38 posted on 08/13/2014 2:03:46 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
ISIS “training centers in Orfa, Ghazi Antab and Antakia (Antioch) set up by the Turkish government for more terrorists to be sent to Syria.”

The Turks, yes, and the Saudis and the US State Department.

39 posted on 08/13/2014 2:07:27 PM PDT by marron
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To: Kackikat

“We lost 400 surface to air missiles in Benghazi and it was reported they were in the hands of terrorists...so I believe YES THEY WERE ARMING ISIS/ISIL....”

It’s actually much worse than that. We’ve apparently also provided ISIS Stargate technology allowing them to teleport 800 miles from Syria to Benghazi and back without ever crossing the borders of Syria, Jordan, Israel and Egypt!

...Ohhhhhhh the feckless duplicity of our government!


40 posted on 08/13/2014 2:12:14 PM PDT by Justa
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