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1 posted on 08/16/2014 9:50:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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This is kind of weird and long. Rambling.

As for this:

“But by the looks of it the convenience store operator doesn’t trust either the police, Al Sharpton or Eric Holder.”

I don’t agree with the author. Nothing indicated other than that he is scared of retribution from the mob.

His attitude makes me less inclined to sympathize with him if his store were looted or destroyed.

I also think the author ignores the photo with the rifles. That is America and the 2nd Amendment in play.


2 posted on 08/16/2014 10:00:44 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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Wow...! Lots of stuff here, good post.


4 posted on 08/16/2014 10:03:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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9 posted on 08/16/2014 10:39:27 PM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

10 posted on 08/16/2014 10:54:47 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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Evidence that Collectivism is the new paradigm. Individualism is on the way out. Altruism has let the Muslim foot in the door.


11 posted on 08/16/2014 11:26:50 PM PDT by Misterioso (Obama is our first postmodern president. Philosophy is dead.)
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“...not unless it’s headed by a Sultan or an Emperor.”

Didn’t Mr Fernandez mean “unless it’s a Hitler or a Stalin”?


15 posted on 08/17/2014 12:10:10 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

18 posted on 08/17/2014 1:19:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Sadly, the thing that made America great, the ability of Americans to keep their cultural roots while looking forward as Americans, united for that common Republic, is fading.

We have gone from e pluribus unum to e pluribus pluribus.

Either we get our collective crap together or the survivors will hopefully rediscover the concept that a house divided cannot stand in time to salvage some of the Republic and keep it.

(Yes, survivors--because a balkanized America can count on being invaded, if for nothing but the selfsame resources our government is trying to stop us from using that others will gladly and brutally exploit.)

If the situation degrades into roving gangs, or 'every man for himself', the poison, the cultural disease will ultimately prove as deadly to the looters as the sheets and mattresses of Ebola victims looted from the containment center will prove to the thieves.

19 posted on 08/17/2014 1:32:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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… most of the problems in Washington are the result of tryng to combine fragmentation at the bottom with centralism at the top.

Actually most of the problems in Washington and elsewhere come from exploiting diversity at the bottom to further authoritarianism at the top. That is another way of telling the lie: "diversity is our strength."

Actually, diversity is our Achilles heel and it is mortally wounding America.

The left, currently led by Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric holder are willfully undermining the rule of law in America in order to fragment the country. Beyond the rule of law, they are breaking the economic law that open borders are toxic in a welfare state. Once they infill the country with impoverished, unskilled, illiterate, culturally alien, constitutionally ignorant, voters vulnerable to socialist seduction and susceptible to racialism, they can proceed to fragment, exploit, and rule.

They engage in crony governing akin to crony capitalism in which the law is set aside, whether the laws are economic or authorized by the Constitution, to aggrandize their power and fill their purses for themselves and their cronies. Who are there cronies? Those who can be identified as exploiters of "diversity"the ones who proclaim most loudly that "diversity is our strength."

A civil society requires more than democratic elections (although Eric Holder in particular and Democrats in general are doing their best to steal elections), it requires a civil culture. Not content with undermining that culture with cynical immigration policies, this administration and the Democrat Party seek to destroy the culture which nurtures democracy and the rule of law by setting race against race, class against class, religion against religion, and sector against sector. They have enshrined Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics as their operating principle:

All politics in America is not local but ultimately racial.

Race politics is exploited to justify defying the rule of law whether by opening our borders to potential Democrat voters at the cost of our economy and our rule of law or whether it comes to encouraging lawlessness on America's streets in places like Ferguson, Missouri.

In Ferguson we see a white Governor throwing a white police chief under the bus by replacing him with a black chief of state police in order to pander to African-American rioters and looters at the cost of Middle Eastern shopowners.

Where is the strength in all this diversity? There is plenty of race in all of this diversity and plenty of politics but precious little strength.


20 posted on 08/17/2014 3:46:06 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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They didn’t call the police, they didn’t ask the police to come and take the video

In a more civil time, they would have been paying "Vinnie" a weekly allowance for "protection"......

21 posted on 08/17/2014 3:51:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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The evidence is suggestive. Nobody is just an “American” any more. Anyone who insists on the plain identifier must be a secret bigot. You are a [modifier][-][American]. In fact, Forbes noted that “the number of Americans renouncing United States citizenship or terminating long-term residency is on a record pace.” And why not? The unadorned term “American” is being drained of meaning; what value there is lies in the prefix, not in the suffix.

The author of this piece is guilty of obfuscating the truth here. In reality, while the rates are rising, the absolute numbers are still miniscule (i.e., on the order of thousands of persons per year). I dare say that, per capita, fewer Americans are renouncing their citizenship than in any other Western country. And the primary reason is to be found in America's onerous tax laws (the U.S. is practically the only country which requires its citizens living long-term abroad to pay taxes on their foreign income).

Regards,

22 posted on 08/17/2014 3:52:44 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Now, the Ferguson Market owners are hoping the video won’t make them a target.

Good luck.

Before the 'problem'; they had things that others wanted; so THAT 'made them a target'.

Now others will be upset because they didn't 'share' properly; so they are now a BIGGER target.


Welcome to America!

25 posted on 08/17/2014 4:26:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Another view: This shows how far behind the public is on the real story line. The shop owner, knows the truth, in real time, that this is about thuggery and he needs to be out of the picture and on extended vacation. He knew this when we were just hearing about the ‘innocent child that was murdered by the brutal cop’.
Much like the politicians control the news story line. While we were hearing there was an incident in Benghazi, the WH had already prepared the ‘video excuse’ and were preparing the 3rd generation story line.


26 posted on 08/17/2014 4:26:43 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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Where is the world going? Who is going to lead it?

Well...




Revelation 13:1-8
 
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
 
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
 
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
 
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
 
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
 
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
 
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
 
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

27 posted on 08/17/2014 4:34:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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In only a few countries would people say, “help police”. Most places they say, “help, it’s the police!”

bump

29 posted on 08/17/2014 5:58:13 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The next DNC convention will be spoken in Spanish; Press 1 for English)
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A nation requires a shared culture and language. If you don’t have that, you have an Empire at best. Empires fail when the cultures demand to go their own way.


30 posted on 08/17/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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The national myth of the 1950s was that America could be different from the old country.

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Many excellent points here, but this one just breaks my heart. I remember an America in which political corruption was the exception to the rule.


33 posted on 08/17/2014 6:51:21 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise; Darksheare

"Who has been stealing my paper towels??!!"

42 posted on 08/18/2014 12:47:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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