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Convicting Darren Wilson Will Be Basically Impossible: You can thank Missouri law for that
The New Republic ^ | August 20, 2014 | Yishai Schwartz

Posted on 08/20/2014 10:18:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ltc8k6

I’d believe the National Enquirer or Scrappleface before I’d believe the New York Times.


21 posted on 08/20/2014 11:01:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: occamrzr06

Need to remember this the next 1000 times some thug guns down innocents. Gonna be a lot of Brothers out there trying to prove they’re innocent.


22 posted on 08/20/2014 11:01:34 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: jospehm20
Thank you. I had my reply queued up, but you said it perfectly.

It is not a matter of "perception" or "racism" to understand the facts of young black male violence.

Just like you can bet the bank that a 70 year old black woman (or elderly black man) won't try to knock your lights out in a gang initiation.

23 posted on 08/20/2014 11:17:15 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s being Zimmermaned. The black population just can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that white men will fight back if their heads are being bashed into the concrete or the orbis of their skulls are being caved in.


24 posted on 08/20/2014 11:30:23 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

They’ll get a much bigger taste of what is now a rare occurrence should they insist on pushing the issue. Someone was buying those millions of guns and billions of rounds just since November 2008.


25 posted on 08/20/2014 11:36:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: occamrzr06

What a load of horse stuff. You never presume guilt until evidence proves guilt.

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Good grief. The author really exposes himself as an ignorant fool.


26 posted on 08/20/2014 11:49:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jsanders2001

It really doesn’t even have to be that drastic.

If I fell imminently threatened, I am going to take action.

If that means I spend the rest of my life in jail, then that’s what it means. I ain’t going out like a b*tch.

I’ll be in jail, and the threat will be dead, and that’s it.


27 posted on 08/21/2014 12:22:54 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. It therefore won’t take very much to convince a jury that Officer Wilson was acting out of self-defense.

Yeah, not very much: Like the videotape of the thug committing a strong-arm robbery and assault just minutes before the confrontation with police, the x-rays of the officer's massive facial injuries, the Coroner's autopsy report, the testimony of twelve witnesses...

Regards,

28 posted on 08/21/2014 12:36:10 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the favoring of police testimony is compounded by another more pernicious bias: racial prejudice.

isn't it just as prejudicial to make a wholesale endictment that most whites are fundamentally racist?

29 posted on 08/21/2014 1:11:11 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: ltc8k6

Well, the SC over ruled state laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule#U.S._Law

How come I get a 404 when I click on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charging_felon_rule#U.S._Law?

Officer Wilson's error was to go on patrol without packing a proper elephant gun.

30 posted on 08/21/2014 1:24:33 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Moonman62

Implicit in raising the self defense the defendant is admitting the killing but the killing was justified so that the burden of proof shifts to defendant prove self defense.


31 posted on 08/21/2014 1:32:17 AM PDT by monocle
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To: bobo1
I think Michael Brown already got justice.

True, dat.

Given the actual facts as we know them, I don't know what Wilson is supposed to be punished for. Littering?

32 posted on 08/21/2014 2:51:21 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior.

And why shouldn't they? Let's look at the stats shall we?

33 posted on 08/21/2014 2:54:03 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Moonman62

“Ignorant fool”? I think he’s something much more “pernicious”. There’s so much he knows that isn’t so.


34 posted on 08/21/2014 3:01:51 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: cynwoody

Works for me.

A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead...however...Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force.
—Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner[3]


35 posted on 08/21/2014 3:48:48 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What happens in Ferguson only serves Obama and Holder to keep the real crimes out of the news. IRS, NSA, BENGHAZI, CRIMEA, ISIS, IRAQ, LOOTING THE TREASURY, INSIDER TRADING, BORDER PERMEABILITY, FAST AND FURIOUS.

I believe I left some of them out.

36 posted on 08/21/2014 3:59:43 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: jospehm20

“Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. “

Earth to author; that is because blacks, and especially young black men, are many times more likely to commit violent crimes than other groups. Just look at the official FBI crime statistics for proof.

Bingo. Without question. Anyone who doubts this should do a ride along with police officers in different communities for a week in different types neighborhoods where the racial makeup is predominantly one race or another and see the truth for themselves and it has little to ue itch economics because some of those black drug dealers are pulling down more than CEOs of mid-level companies...


37 posted on 08/21/2014 4:47:59 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Dilbert San Diego

> I’ve often wondered about Reverend Jackson and Reverend Sharpton. Did they go to divinity school? Are they ordained ministers in any known religious denomination? Where are their churches?

I’m guessing Universal Life Church at $25 a pop...


38 posted on 08/21/2014 4:57:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jospehm20

“Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. “


Gee! You could have knocked me over with a feather!


39 posted on 08/21/2014 5:01:08 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: jsanders2001

“Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. “

> Earth to author; that is because blacks, and especially young black men, are many times more likely to commit violent crimes than other groups. Just look at the official FBI crime statistics for proof.

Bingo. Without question. Anyone who doubts this should do a ride along with police officers in different communities for a week in different types neighborhoods where the racial makeup is predominantly one race or another and see the truth for themselves and it has little to do with economics because some of those black drug dealers are pulling down more than CEOs of mid-level companies...


40 posted on 08/21/2014 5:01:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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