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1 posted on 08/20/2014 10:18:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Well, there’s also those stubborn facts.

Robbed store violently. Punched cop in face and tried to steal gun. Charged at come when told to freeze and after being shot with non-lethal force.


2 posted on 08/20/2014 10:21:59 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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>> “We may never know what actually happened...”

Yet, emphatic about seeking a conviction against the LEO.


3 posted on 08/20/2014 10:24:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the SC over ruled state laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule#U.S._Law


4 posted on 08/20/2014 10:24:35 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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In general, we presume innocence. But when we know that a killing has occurred and can definitively identify who committed the act, our presumptions are supposed to shift. Now we are supposed to presume guilt, and it is the shooter who must prove that his actions were justified

What a load of horse stuff. You never presume guilt until evidence proves guilt.

5 posted on 08/20/2014 10:24:41 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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“Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. “

Earth to author; that is because blacks, and especially young black men, are many times more likely to commit violent crimes than other groups. Just look at the official FBI crime statistics for proof.


6 posted on 08/20/2014 10:26:07 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Michael Brown already got justice.

The blame rests on the left-wing welfare state and the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons that couldn’t care less about their own people, but place a “Rev” label in front of their name to milk money off contrived situations to enrich themselves.

They should be in Chicago teaching responsibility and morality.

Left wing black leaders are nothing but slaves to white liberals.


7 posted on 08/20/2014 10:27:43 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact that officer Wilson will need to have his eye socket surgically reconstructed should “inject the issue of justification” . The author is a snarky little jerk and a liberal. but I repeat myself.

CC


8 posted on 08/20/2014 10:32:13 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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“We may never know what actually happened during the violent encounter between teenager Michael Brown and policeman Darren Wilson.”

So we’ll make up a story anyway to serve our race-baiting narrative.


10 posted on 08/20/2014 10:37:22 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, well besides the fact that he did nothing wrong and this is all manufactured outrage....


11 posted on 08/20/2014 10:38:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" In general, we presume innocence. But when we know that a killing has occurred and can definitively identify who committed the act, our presumptions are supposed to shift. Now we are supposed to presume guilt, and it is the shooter who must prove that his actions were justified. Unless the shooter is a policeman. And unless the victim is a black male. And unless the shooting happens in Missouri.

No, dipstick, we are supposed to find out the facts, and then apply the law. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty should not waver, even in the face of crowds who anxiously await the opportunity to loot, pillage, and burn.

Nothing about this case justifies the wholesale lawlessness on the part of the people who have been rioting and looting: there is no Right, presumed nor codified, to steal and destroy the property of innocent others in the petition for redress of grievances.

13 posted on 08/20/2014 10:49:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Yo, Yishai Schwartz: why even talk about convicting someone when they haven't even been charged? Geez.
19 posted on 08/20/2014 10:59:55 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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He’s being Zimmermaned. The black population just can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that white men will fight back if their heads are being bashed into the concrete or the orbis of their skulls are being caved in.


24 posted on 08/20/2014 11:30:23 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior. It therefore won’t take very much to convince a jury that Officer Wilson was acting out of self-defense.

Yeah, not very much: Like the videotape of the thug committing a strong-arm robbery and assault just minutes before the confrontation with police, the x-rays of the officer's massive facial injuries, the Coroner's autopsy report, the testimony of twelve witnesses...

Regards,

28 posted on 08/21/2014 12:36:10 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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the favoring of police testimony is compounded by another more pernicious bias: racial prejudice.

isn't it just as prejudicial to make a wholesale endictment that most whites are fundamentally racist?

29 posted on 08/21/2014 1:11:11 AM PDT by blueplum
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Extensive research shows that Americans are far more likely to believe that African Americans—and especially young black men—have committed crimes and display violent behavior.

And why shouldn't they? Let's look at the stats shall we?

33 posted on 08/21/2014 2:54:03 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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What happens in Ferguson only serves Obama and Holder to keep the real crimes out of the news. IRS, NSA, BENGHAZI, CRIMEA, ISIS, IRAQ, LOOTING THE TREASURY, INSIDER TRADING, BORDER PERMEABILITY, FAST AND FURIOUS.

I believe I left some of them out.

36 posted on 08/21/2014 3:59:43 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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I don’t know how you can be more clueless than this author. A black man shot by a white police officer is far more likely to result in a criminal charge, trial, and conviction than the other way around. A white man shot and killed by either a white police officer or a black police officer will result in an internal police investigation, a review by the prosecutor, and a finding of justified shooting.

This guy has no idea what he is talking about.


43 posted on 08/21/2014 6:10:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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As long as there is still the slightest possibility that Wilson acted in his own defense, Missouri law favors Wilson.

LOL! What part of the words 'reasonable doubt' does Schwartz not get?

44 posted on 08/21/2014 6:10:57 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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