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Ferguson’s black community must not be given the same ‘justice’ as Trayvon Martin
The Manchester Guardian ^ | August 22, 2014 | Gary Younge in Ferguson

Posted on 08/23/2014 12:25:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Only the courts can judge Michael Brown’s killer – but this is the system that let George Zimmerman walk free.

Just outside a mall in Ferguson, Missouri, shortly after 10 o’clock on Wednesday, a black man in his 30s was stopped and frisked by around eight white policemen. As he gingerly emptied his pockets, careful not to move too quickly, he yelled at them. It was a soliloquy of pure rage; a fluent, apparently unstoppable oration against not just the men who had apprehended him but the system they represented.

“Yes I’m angry,” he shouted. “Four hundred years we been here. We built this place for free and y’all still hate us.” A man filming the incident was told to move on but did not budge. When the police let the pedestrian go (whatever they were looking for he didn’t have), the man recording went too. “I’ve done my job,” he said.

“All books about all revolutions begin with a chapter that describes the decay of tottering authority or the misery and sufferings of people,” wrote Polish journalist Ryszard Kapuscinski in Shah of Shahs. “They should begin with a psychological chapter, one that shows how a harassed, terrified man breaks his terror and stops being afraid. This unusual process demands illuminating. Man gets rid of fear and feels free.”

For the past fortnight, the black population of this St Louis suburb has been shedding its fear. Since Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, was shot six times while raising his hands in a surrender position, they have asserted their humanity in ways big and small, beautiful and ugly. Every night they marched up the main drag in the black part of town, past militarised encampments of heavily armed police, chanting: “Hey, hey, ho, ho, killer cops have got to go.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacks; ferguson; michaelbrown; trayvon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

St Trayvon of skittles was given justice in a court of law.

Mike Brown will get his day in court when officer Wilson is allowed to defend himself.


21 posted on 08/23/2014 2:28:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All these loudmouthed negros need to shut up and go home. This is none of their business.


22 posted on 08/23/2014 2:32:44 AM PDT by Octar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin’s Church Severely Damaged by Arson
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/13/AR2008121302503.html:

“The 1,000-member evangelical church was the subject of intense scrutiny after Palin was named Sen. John McCain’s running mate. Early in Palin’s campaign, the church was criticized for promoting in a Sunday bulletin a Love Won Out conference in Anchorage sponsored by Focus on the Family. The conference promised to “help men and women dissatisfied with living homosexually understand that same-sex attractions can be overcome.”

Contrast:

“Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor says blacks should not sing ‘God Bless America’ but ‘God damn America.’

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side, has a long history of what even Obama’s campaign aides concede is “inflammatory rhetoric,” including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own ‘terrorism.’

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4443788

No one has yet attempted arson on Wright’s Church.The problem is that the left are afraid of Palin and of her religion. The right barely knows what is happening and so have no fear......yet.


23 posted on 08/23/2014 2:47:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The author, an admitted communist

And stuck on S T U P I D! ! ! ! ! !

24 posted on 08/23/2014 3:08:00 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We don't have News media anymore. They all are propagandist. Yes, even FOX.)
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To: freebilly
They use that line in Prison all the time when trying to get them to clean the units. The best retort i’ve heard is “Well then another 30 minutes is’nt going to matter.”
25 posted on 08/23/2014 3:20:01 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait a minute! I totally oppose police, regardless of whether they are white or black, who conduct illegal searches. Unless they had probable cause that that black man was committing a crime, they had absolutely no moral or legal (per the US Constitution) right to search him.

That said, that man’s forebears did not build this country for “free,” and even if they did, what in the world does that have to do with the here and now? No one owes black people anything for what may or may not have happened generations ago (400 years is stretching it I think). This man sounds like someone who is steeped in grievance history. No one deserves anything more or less than equal treatment under the law—no special privileges or penalties regardless of race, sex, or religion.


26 posted on 08/23/2014 3:20:47 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is the view that Black Americans have of themselves, and there is the view that other Americans have of Black Americans. It seems there is only a very small pct. of Black Americans who are willing to get on with their lives without blaming white Americans for their, Black people's, problems.

Many non-Black Americans (if they haven't already) are starting to get the feeling that there will never be some kind of agreement between the two groups. My own feelings about things, after being a pro-civil rights, liberal teenager in the sixties, is extremely pessimistic.

27 posted on 08/23/2014 3:29:42 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

There is a common saying among black Americans that “America was built on the backs of blacks.” Never mind that before the twentieth century there was only a tiny pct. of blacks who lived north of the Mason-Dixon line where the great majority of the building of America took place, many blacks are convinced they did all the work. For free.


28 posted on 08/23/2014 3:35:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” “They should begin with a psychological chapter, one that shows how a harassed, terrified man breaks his terror and stops being afraid. This unusual process demands illuminating. Man gets rid of fear and feels free.”

The Jolly Teen Giant shed his fear of tiny store clerks and tossed one around during his robbery. That caused him to lose his fear of cops as he attacked Wilson and attempted to treat him like the clerk. That didn’t turn out so well.

Sometimes rational fear can be key to your survival.


29 posted on 08/23/2014 3:37:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: CitizenUSA

The move from indentured servants to slavery was set down in a court case in 1640/1641.

So slavery of blacks was from 1641 to 1865. Less than 225 years. And slavery ended 150 years ago.


30 posted on 08/23/2014 3:41:20 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is interesting that blacks are demanding lynch mob “justice.”


31 posted on 08/23/2014 3:44:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“That’ BS right there! Everyone knows they got free room and board.”

And they had full employment! Ya just can’t please em.


32 posted on 08/23/2014 3:54:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: CorporateStepsister

“They already have a death grip on the courts, the media, schools, and get away with threats on a regular basis.”

Blacks in Ferguson are defining justice as a conviction of Darren Wilson. In order to ensure this blacks are demanding a black prosecutor, black judge, black jury. If this is allowed it will only further divide blacks and whites. Ferguson blacks also want black cops. How far will this notion be expanded? Black teachers only for black students, black accountants, lawyers, doctors, etc, etc, for blacks? Seems as though the objective of black political class is to further polarize the country. Sorta seems like..... Apartheid to me. Can that really be their objective?


33 posted on 08/23/2014 3:54:46 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Wilson isn’t guilty, that’s exactly the justice they should be given.


34 posted on 08/23/2014 4:00:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Beagle8U

Another lost-his-fear knucklehead Darwin award winner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBPtWUJqPM


35 posted on 08/23/2014 4:02:06 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Cowboy Bob
don't forget health care! Free too. And clothing and foot wear.
36 posted on 08/23/2014 4:18:36 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the article:

“Since Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, was shot six times while raising his hands in a surrender position . . .”

The author presents that crucial feature as if it was an established fact; either he doesn’t know or doesn’t care that it’s not - which tells me what the rest of his column is worth.

Trayvon Martin fell apart in a court of law because a court of law allows facts to be established, and allows bogus testimony to be challenged. Not until that happens with Brown should he (or much of anybody else) be telling us where Brown’s hands were.


37 posted on 08/23/2014 4:22:39 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Yes I’m angry,” he shouted. “Four hundred years we been here. We built this place for free and y’all still hate us.”

A one way ticket back could be arranged! He’s been sitting on his ass for the last 50 years collecting welfare.


38 posted on 08/23/2014 4:27:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: kanawa

Guns drawn, they order you to stop, might be a good idea to comply.


39 posted on 08/23/2014 4:37:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Organic Panic

“I’m a frickin American.”

Amen, brother!


40 posted on 08/23/2014 4:45:59 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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