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California plastic bag ban passes Assembly; Senate approval expected
San Jose Mercury ^ | 08/29/2014 | Jessica Calefati and Josh Richman

Posted on 08/29/2014 6:08:33 AM PDT by artichokegrower

California appears headed to becoming the first state in the nation to ban single-use plastic grocery bags after the controversial legislation won approval from the state Assembly, just days after lawmakers rejected the measure.

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Environmental groups argue that low-income shoppers are protected because the bill says anyone who qualifies for food stamps or a nutrition program for low-income women and their babies can get paper bags or reusable plastic bags from grocery stores for free.

In Los Angeles County, where a bag ban has been in place since 2011, data show that 47 percent of consumers at large grocery stores get free bags.


So if you flash your EBT card at the grocery store not only do we taxpayers have to pay for your groceries but we also have to buy you a bag. So poor people are exempt from environmental regulation? Also this article states that half of the customers in California grocery stores are using food stamps.

1 posted on 08/29/2014 6:08:33 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Cut down more trees for paper bags!


2 posted on 08/29/2014 6:12:32 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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and you know the EBT types will always bring back their reusable bags to save the tax payers money right?

uhh huh... I bet 1 in 100 actually gets reused at the store.


3 posted on 08/29/2014 6:12:47 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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I wonder what the hell Walmart’s gonna do....as it is now, if you buy six items, you get 7 or 8 plastic baggies...


4 posted on 08/29/2014 6:14:23 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: artichokegrower

In the 70’s didn’t California ban paper bags because we were killing the rainforest or some such nonsense?


5 posted on 08/29/2014 6:17:14 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: BCW

Kill a tree or choke a fish. At this point ,”What difference does it make?”


6 posted on 08/29/2014 6:17:51 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ErnBatavia

LOL! Walmart sure loves passing em out like candy. I hope businesses just say NO NO NO! They couldn’t possibly enforce every business in Cali.


7 posted on 08/29/2014 6:19:08 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Worse yet, what are all the dogwalkers gonna use to collect their pups’ stools?? They’ll now probably just leave the droppings for my sneakers to latch onto...


8 posted on 08/29/2014 6:22:29 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: BCW

Was it not these stupid damn liberal enviro-nuts that facilitated the whole plastic bag craze in the first place?

I remember a couple of decades ago environmentalist screaming about wackin down all the trees.

Now that the ducks and dolphin are choking on these plastic bags, they want to eliminate them.

Man...I really despise liberals.


9 posted on 08/29/2014 6:38:18 AM PDT by servantboy777
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I think you’re right.


10 posted on 08/29/2014 6:48:09 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: artichokegrower

What a great idea! People will reuse bags and pack groceries in bags covered with rotten meat juices...what could go wrong?

Washing your fresh vegetables in the toilet bowl would give a similar effect. It’s natural and organic, yum yum!


11 posted on 08/29/2014 6:48:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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Doesn't matter to me, I hate nearly anything disposable short of TP.
“Waste not want not” was what I learned growing up and it is still the guiding rule for this household. Just like with plastic utensils, some inner part of me just hates stuff you use once and then toss.
Not that I think it's a Good Thing that the nanny state is making things possibly difficult for people, but i don't waste a scrap of paper, a drop of water or gasoline or a plastic bag (I have enough already for the next three canines).
Plenty of stupid crap coming out of Sacto to get really riled up about...
Cranky .02
12 posted on 08/29/2014 6:54:36 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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Seems like the plastic bag recycle cans at the stores were always jammed full. So why not just put more cans out for plastic recycle or give money back like cans? What about garbage can bags, leaf bags, zip locks, etc.? It was the garbage disposal sites complaining about plastic.


13 posted on 08/29/2014 7:07:33 AM PDT by jetson
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***LOL! Walmart sure loves passing em out like candy.***

Have you noticed that the blue bags from Walmart for 50 cents are not cloth but a form of plastic or paper fibers. Look at how the handles are attached to the bag. They are not sewn but somehow heat pressed. I’ve had those bags fail by the handles breaking off after just one or two uses.

Same for other store bags. If I have to buy bags, look for handles sewn on the bag.


14 posted on 08/29/2014 7:09:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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I reuse my grocery bags (TJs and Sprouts). There are no rotting meat juices soiling the bags.

I shop at Sams Club all the time. No bags of any kind are provided. People shopped for groceries long before paper or plastic were provided. The personal basket may make a comeback.

Having said all this, I object to liberal heavy-handedness that treats me like a small child. Mandatory seatbelt laws. Gun bans. Now shopping bags. It’s insulting.


15 posted on 08/29/2014 7:24:19 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: servantboy777

Liberals look around and see problems no one else does. Then they propose solutions that cause more problems than they fix. And of course, they have another “solution” that will cause even MORE problems.


16 posted on 08/29/2014 7:38:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: nonsporting

Liberals have solution to everything and it always involves the iron fist of the government to enforce it. And then they claim to want freedom.


17 posted on 08/29/2014 7:41:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: artichokegrower

On the positive side, they’ll be hiring lumberjacks in the Pacific Northwest.


18 posted on 08/29/2014 7:42:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Hope you wash them before reusing.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/sns-green-bacteria-in-shopping-bags-story.html

Reusable bags, if not properly washed between uses, create the potential for cross-contamination of foods.

This potential exists when raw meat products and foods traditionally eaten uncooked (fruits and vegetables) are carried in the same bags, either together or between uses. This risk can be increased by the growth of bacteria in the bags.”


19 posted on 08/29/2014 7:45:54 AM PDT by maggief
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Little know fact. Ebola got started this way when Africa banned plastic bags...... : )


20 posted on 08/29/2014 9:21:48 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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