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Fed: US consumers have decided to 'hoard money'
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Posted on 09/02/2014 6:02:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

My penny jar is nearly full


21 posted on 09/02/2014 6:12:31 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Guilty, in a sense. I am keeping my spending to an absolute minimum for the past five years and the next three years. I’ll spend again when that evil, anti-American druggie is out of our White House and my spending will not help to fund his destruction of what used the the best hope for freedom on earth. I’ll spend aggressively once a decent person is inaugurated, but not until then. So, yes, I’m “hoarding” by their standards. I’m making my personal decisions for political reasons, and my decision is a firm “no”.


22 posted on 09/02/2014 6:12:34 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Fed: US consumers have decided to 'hoard money'

A second data point emerges. The first was a 5x increase in the 'fees' associated with renouncing citizenship. This is a small but significant erection of a financial Berlin Wall.

This second data point is the introduction of the concept that savers (and eventually, preppers) are 'hoarders' to be shamed and eventually raided.

The conversion of the United States to the Soviet States of America is progressing nicely.

23 posted on 09/02/2014 6:12:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The rubbish coming out is wrong in so many ways I just don’t know where to start.


24 posted on 09/02/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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i used to have money to hoard, back in the 90’s
now i’m in danger of defaulting on my loans if my paycheck is a few days late.


25 posted on 09/02/2014 6:14:00 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: OpusatFR
The only ones hording money are the big banks.

Hoarding is good because it means the money has perceived value. As for the big banks, they don't hoard money. The Fed gives them gobs of money, then they send it out in various ways that don't help the economy. They basically play short term speculative games with the money that results in small booms and busts (or large ones like summer 2008). The larger the boom and bust the worse off the rest of us end up. Hence the Fed policy is bad for the rest of us when it works (fortunately it does not). The main result of that policy is that the people that run the big banks get very wealthy. But they are not hoarders either. They send the money out to the same speculative investments that they do at their day jobs at the big banks. A lot makes its way into the stock market.

26 posted on 09/02/2014 6:14:03 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Red in Blue PA

What idiots. When hamburger is $4/# and gas is $3.50/gal., the Middle Class family is not hoarding but simply spending most of their money on basics. Add in the insurance and tax inflation, and there’s nothing left to” hoard.”


27 posted on 09/02/2014 6:14:28 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Red in Blue PA
What these monkeys call "hoarding money by consumers" is called by consumers "paying down installment debt." If we were hoarding money it would be visible in bank demand deposits and this phoney "paper" would not have had to have been concocted.

BTW it wasn't long ago that "economists" were wailing that growth required an increase in the savings rate. Savings, hoarding. WTF?

28 posted on 09/02/2014 6:14:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red in Blue PA

I guess “saving” is now known as “hoarding.”


29 posted on 09/02/2014 6:16:22 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Lazamataz

U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422%

Over the last two years, the U.S. has had a spike in expatriations. It isn’t exactly Ellis Island in reverse, but it’s more than a dribble. With global tax reporting and FATCA, the list of the individuals who renounced is up. For 2013, there was a 221% increase, with record numbers of Americans renouncing. The Treasury Department is required to publish a quarterly list, but these numbers are under-stated, some say considerably.

The presence or absence of tax motivation is no longer relevant, but that could change. After Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin departed for Singapore, Senators Chuck Schumer and Bob Casey introduced a bill to double the exit tax to 30% for anyone leaving the U.S. for tax reasons. That hasn’t happened, but taxes are still a big issue for many.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/08/28/u-s-hikes-fee-to-renounce-citizenship-by-422/


30 posted on 09/02/2014 6:16:54 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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I’m hoarding a little myself. Being able to move quickly at a time like this is prudent. I don’t care if I’m not getting much interest.


31 posted on 09/02/2014 6:17:10 PM PDT by refermech
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To: hinckley buzzard
it wasn't long ago that "economists" were wailing that growth required an increase in the savings rate.

And those economists are correct.

32 posted on 09/02/2014 6:17:31 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Red in Blue PA

people are hoarding money

nope it’s those CONSUMERS....../s


33 posted on 09/02/2014 6:17:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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Notice when the economy struggles or fails it is always the fault of the consumer and never the bastards in DC.


34 posted on 09/02/2014 6:19:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: palmer

I know the mechanics. They are not putting the money into Main Street. As far as I’m concerned parking it with a prop desk to buy share in corporations who in turn borrow money to buy their shares back instead of expanding,r&d, and hiring is hording.

The author of this piece who states the consumer needs to return after seeing not only their incomes drop but their jobs leave for other parts of the world and their healthcare and basic day to day expenses such as food go through the roof needs to be bit$$ slapped.


36 posted on 09/02/2014 6:20:05 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

By calling accumulating savings “hoarding money” the feral government will be able to claim that it is helping the poor when it confiscates it.


37 posted on 09/02/2014 6:21:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I had a big bucket of coins. It was a big bucket.

Had it on my boat the night it sank.

I am not having very good luck with boats.


38 posted on 09/02/2014 6:21:22 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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39 posted on 09/02/2014 6:21:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Why democrat voters are like sperm: Only 1 in a million work.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
A "money hoard" is any lump sum of money not in the hands of the big-government/big-corporate crony-fascist complex where all money rightfully belongs.
40 posted on 09/02/2014 6:22:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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