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To: Berlin_Freeper

I would view this in a slightly different manner. Big governments don’t represent residents anymore....they represent lobbyists and agendas.

I would agree....the British military will rapidly downsize within four years if this goes through, and barely have a ground force and a marginal navy. I also think they’d have to give up their UN permanent seat on the security council, and the G7 conferences would fall in the future (it never had any positive contributions anyway).

Do the math....there are a minimum of five different European countries serious about breaking off. This is simply the first step. I’d expect Ottawa to revisit their episode, and for some state or two of Mexico to get serious about this over the next decade. Big doesn’t necessarily mean better....it never did.


2 posted on 09/08/2014 2:24:00 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I think the whole vote is one not based on Scotland v’s England or not wanting to be British. It is about the same thing that drives up the UKIP vote. It is about being ruled rather than being served, it is about being told that Islam is good and we must tolerate their evil religion, it is about the government’s of this world being more answerable to the great leftist movements (see UN/EU) or the biggest banks and businesses, it’s about having new moralities forced down their throats - it is in fact a vote against where they find themselves in the world. If I could vote my State (South Australia) away from the rest of my country in the self delusional belief that it would turn back the clock to something I know was once better then I would do that. I can’t - the Scots might think they can - I think they will be disappointed no matter the result of the vote!


8 posted on 09/08/2014 2:53:06 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: pepsionice

“Big doesn’t necessarily mean better....it never did.”

This will be a blow to the communist one-world-state folks. During an economic downturn in Texas about thirty years ago an economist made the argument that an independent Texas could easily recover by having control over its own currency and economic policies. But it was hopelessly tied to national currency and policies that were damaging its recovery. (The author worked through each national policy and how it hurt Texas.)

On the other hand, being too small is bad also. This is what lead to world war 1. Each country, to survive, aligned itself with others. Then, like NATO today, when one was attacked they all got dragged into war.

Huge would be just fine if it weren’t for people who get into power with agendas that are, essentially, anti-human.


16 posted on 09/08/2014 4:08:41 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: pepsionice
They will have to give up their UN permanent security council seat. Most likely would be replaced by India

That would be the ultimate slap to the face -- two former colonies

35 posted on 09/08/2014 10:22:16 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: pepsionice
there are a minimum of five different European countries serious about breaking off.

let's see:

  1. spain
  2. belgium
  3. italy (Sardinia, Sud-tyrol)
  4. ?
  5. ?

Who are 4 and 5?

36 posted on 09/08/2014 10:24:04 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: pepsionice

Don’t understand the surge for the ‘yes’ vote at all.
Scotland is socialist.
A vote for independence will sever the UK Nanny State teat. Who will pay for the ‘free stuff’?
Maybe one explanation is that the average Joe (or Jock) is only thinking of Braveheart.


39 posted on 09/08/2014 11:57:55 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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