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The Dying Russians (she says it's from broken hearts)
NYU Review of Books blog ^ | September 2, 2014 | Masha Gessen

Posted on 09/10/2014 4:22:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: Flag_This
Um... we were on the same side in 1914.

And in 1917, the Bolsheviks essentaially took power against Russian culture and the Russian people. That's why they had a civil war, y'know?

21 posted on 09/10/2014 5:13:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: mac_truck

Maybe if you’d kept reading you wouuld have perceived that i
asn’t so different after all. Sterile sex, sterile culture.


22 posted on 09/10/2014 5:14:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: PLMerite

I would guess that as your old friends die, you do get different ones.


23 posted on 09/10/2014 5:16:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah, I heard the rumors . . . it’s Patriarch Kirill of Moscow. I just didn’t have the heart to tell you.


24 posted on 09/10/2014 5:17:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jonty30
"The meaning of life has been completely stripped from the Russian heart. This is what is killing them. They were raised to value themselves in utilitarian terms."

True.

She says: no vision of the future, no commitment to transmit their being to a next generation, no sense of transcendent meaning.

Sterility in every sense: physical, historical, spiritual.

25 posted on 09/10/2014 5:17:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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26 posted on 09/10/2014 5:20:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

What does that mean, Laz?


27 posted on 09/10/2014 5:21:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: McGruff

Whataboutism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Whataboutism is a term for the Tu quoque logical fallacy popularized by The Economist for describing the use of the fallacy by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. The tactic was used when criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, wherein the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world loosely similar to the original item of criticism.[1][2] It represents a case of tu quoque or the appeal to hypocrisy, a logical fallacy which attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.

In 1986, when the Soviet Union belatedly announced a serious nuclear accident in Chernobyl, Ukraine after Western nations reported detecting unusually high radioactivity levels, it did so in one paragraph. The New York Times stated that[3]

The terse Soviet announcement of the Chernobyl accident was followed by a Tass dispatch noting that there had been many mishaps in the United States, ranging from Three Mile Island outside Harrisburg, Pa., to the Ginna plant near Rochester. Tass said an American antinuclear group registered 2,300 accidents, breakdowns and other faults in 1979.

The practice of focusing on disasters elsewhere when one occurs in the Soviet Union is so common that after watching a report on Soviet television about a catastrophe abroad, Russians often call Western friends to find out whether something has happened in the Soviet Union.


28 posted on 09/10/2014 5:21:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Lazamataz
Thanks for this comment. I think you're right, Laz. It's a famine of the spirit.

"When there is no vision, the people perish."

29 posted on 09/10/2014 5:24:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Um... we were on the same side in 1914. And in 1917, the Bolsheviks essentaially took power against Russian culture and the Russian people. That's why they had a civil war, y'know?

Seriously? Okay, for the very literally minded, they've been our enemies for 97 years.

30 posted on 09/10/2014 5:24:35 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This

The part you really missed, is that the Bolsheviks made war on Russian culture for 70 years.


31 posted on 09/10/2014 5:25:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Flag_This

The Russian people have been screwed by Marxist leaders for a century. The Russian folks themselves don’t hate us; they may be envious.


32 posted on 09/10/2014 5:32:25 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Obama: First ever POTUS to be retired while still in office.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"The part you really missed, is that the Bolsheviks made war on Russian culture for 70 years."

No, the part you missed is that the russian military - populated by russian people - went where their leaders pointed them. Regardless of what the individual's feelings may have been towards the U.S. they did what their bolshevik leaders told them to do. I'm all busted up about the russian culture bit too.

33 posted on 09/10/2014 5:35:51 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: 1rudeboy

“The practice of focusing on disasters elsewhere when one occurs in the Soviet Union is so common that after watching a report on Soviet television about a catastrophe abroad, Russians often call Western friends to find out whether something has happened in the Soviet Union.”

A lot of Americans look to foreign news for an honest appraisal of what is happening in the US; the Obamunists have controlled our media for a long time. As our plight at home worsens, we get correspondingly higher doses of meaningless news from parts of the world most Americans will never see.


34 posted on 09/10/2014 5:37:16 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Russian people — good people. ALL people — good people.


35 posted on 09/10/2014 5:51:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Flag_This
No, the part you missed is that the russian military - populated by russian people - went where their leaders pointed them. Regardless of what the individual's feelings may have been towards the U.S. they did what their bolshevik leaders told them to do.

.... exactly as every military has done since the dawn of the military age.

36 posted on 09/10/2014 5:53:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz; Mrs. Don-o
Russian people — good people. ALL people — good people.

We had a friend from Kazakhstan who would say: "Koryak" (our Vanya's ethnicity) "good people. Very good. Chechnyan bad people. Very bad."

37 posted on 09/10/2014 5:57:37 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Reminds me of former friends of the Clintons and yOmama.


38 posted on 09/10/2014 5:57:38 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Lack of hope?

Or lack of God and the good news of Jesus?


39 posted on 09/10/2014 5:59:39 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: don-o

Aren’t Chechnyans Muslim? That would explain it. I did say PEOPLE. LOL


40 posted on 09/10/2014 6:01:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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