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The Dying Russians (she says it's from broken hearts)
NYU Review of Books blog ^ | September 2, 2014 | Masha Gessen

Posted on 09/10/2014 4:22:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: Lazamataz
THanks for that translation. Interesting.

When we adopted our Vanya, from Russian Far East tribal origins (Koryaks on the Kamchatka peninsula) our fellow Russian Orthodox parishioner and friend said "Ah, Koryaks, good people, good people." Then somehow the topic of the people of the Caucasus region came up, and he said, "Bad, Chechens, veddy bad people.'

41 posted on 09/10/2014 6:04:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: don-o; Lazamataz
#41

Lol. I posted mine before I noticed yours!!

42 posted on 09/10/2014 6:06:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Lazamataz
".... exactly as every military has done since the dawn of the military age."

So the feelings of the russian people about the U.S. are utterly irrelevant. The leadership of russia considered the United States to be an enemy and they were a threat to us for 97 years.

43 posted on 09/10/2014 6:06:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: 2banana

Oh, absolutely. In the ultimate sense, existentially, deep down, there’s no hope for anyone, except the hope we have in Jesus Chirst our Lord.


44 posted on 09/10/2014 6:09:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: Flag_This
So the feelings of the russian people about the U.S. are utterly irrelevant.

Not entirely; at least not to me. And they were not an enemy, but an ally, during World War II. Allegiances shift, and as America goes more and more Communist and Fascist, so they should.

45 posted on 09/10/2014 6:12:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In Cyrillic: Русские люди хорошие люди. Все люди хорошие люди.

The dashes are a convenience for American readers of translated Russian, btw. Russia has no word for 'are'. The word 'are' in the phrase "All people are good people" is implied, and the dashes put in the 'are' for American readers.

Small bit of trivia. :) I love languages. :)

46 posted on 09/10/2014 6:15:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ain’t that sump’in?


47 posted on 09/10/2014 6:20:02 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In fact, all the is/be/are variations are somewhat untranslatable to Russian. They translate, but poorly.

So, when Clinton said, famously, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is', is."... the Russian newspapers reported he said "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'exists', exists'.

Not quite the same thing. :)

48 posted on 09/10/2014 6:20:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; don-o

You two. Go get married or sumpin. :)


49 posted on 09/10/2014 6:20:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Great tagline. It’s sad and sorry that we have lacked the ability and the foresight to negotiate straight up with Russia and achieve a true mutually beneficial relationship.


50 posted on 09/10/2014 6:29:36 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

They didn’t seem to have this issue in the 1800s. But They still had religion then. The soviets did all they could to kill it off. Putin may actually be encouraging its revival to help counteract this hope issue. Not that I’m a fan of Putin but he has been supportive at least in speeches of the Orthodox Church.


51 posted on 09/10/2014 6:29:48 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The winter nights are too long and there is too much vodka.


52 posted on 09/10/2014 6:36:55 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Lazamataz
"Not entirely; at least not to me. And they were not an enemy, but an ally, during World War II."

I guess I would answer that by saying if someone is pointing a gun (or an ICBM) at me, I don't concern myself too much with their back story. As far as WWII goes, Stalin collaborated with Hitler on the invasion of Poland and thus launched the War. Prior to WWII, German troops sometimes trained in Russian territory to avoid restrictions placed on Germany under the Versailles Treaty.

Our entire society got skewed up by 50 years of Cold War. How many Americans were killed or wounded by munitions designed and/or manufactured by the Russians? Soviet pilots flew Russian MIGs in Korea and Vietnam and shot down American pilots. How many American POWs were dragged off to die in the Soviet Union in those conflicts? And just a few days ago, Russian nuclear-capable aircraft were playing games with our air defenses. I'm very sorry, I just can't consider Russians to be our friends in any meaningful way.

53 posted on 09/10/2014 6:39:44 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: 1rudeboy

bttt


54 posted on 09/10/2014 7:02:27 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Flag_This

I would add that the Soviets infiltrated our media and other institutions with their propaganda. They are part of the reason why the anti American left is in power in our country and is destroying it.


55 posted on 09/10/2014 7:17:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
"They are part of the reason why the anti American left is in power in our country and is destroying it."

Amen.

56 posted on 09/10/2014 7:20:31 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Interesting Times

Ping to an important article. This study is a good start, but loss of the will to live by so many people in this one country/culture should be studied more specifically and more thoroughly.


57 posted on 09/10/2014 7:24:59 PM PDT by zot
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To: 1rudeboy

One liberal defending another.

No surprise here...


58 posted on 09/10/2014 7:29:49 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I suggest you read a bio of the author before you lecture me.


59 posted on 09/10/2014 7:30:59 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Shut up, commie.


60 posted on 09/10/2014 7:42:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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